Post by Fana fi Shaykh on Jul 27, 2008 10:56:33 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
JAZZALLAHU ANNA SAYYEDINA MUHAMMADAN MA HUWA AHLAHU
MANAM SAGHE DARBARE JILANI
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Imam Sahib Qibla, I hope you are in the best of health and Imaan.
Respected Imam Sahib i read fatwa by Sayyedina Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Al-Qadiri Radi Allahu anhu and also your reply in one of the early question where , It was stated "If a person believe Sayyedina Imam Ali alayhis 'salam to be more exalted than Sayyedina Abu Bakr and Sayyedina Umar (radi Allahu anhuma) is tafzili shia etc"
But i learn from authentic Sunni source's that there were sahaba and awliya-allah who consider Sayyedina Imam Ali alayhis 'salam more exalted after Nabi-e-Karim Sayyedina Muhammad Mustafa Ahmed-e-Mujtaba Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam.
Here are some name which i recorded from the book of Sayyedina Abdul haq Muhaddis-e-Dehalvi Radi Allahu anhu who consider Maula-e-Kainat alayhis 'salam more praiseworthy after Sarwar-e-Konain Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
- Hazrat Abu Huraira
- Hazrat Salman Farsi
- Hazrat Mikdat
- Hazrat Zaid Bin Arkam
- Hazrat Abu Said Khuzri
- Hazrat Abuzar Ghefari
- Hazrat Jabir Ibne Abullah Ansari
- Hazrat Amar Yasir
- Hazrat Hassan Bin Tabit
- Hazrat Abu Aswat Dholi
- Hazrat Imam Zayd ash shaheed ibne Ali ibne Hussain ibne Ali
- Hazrat Imam Malik
- Hazrat Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal
- Hazrat Sheikh Shahab-ul-Din Suharwardi
- Hazrat Abdul Rehman Jami ridwanuallahi ta'ala ajmaeen.
further we read In al-Fisal (210/4), Ibn Hazm adh-Dhâhiri narrated from Ibn Abdul-Barr with his isnad that: "Ammâr bin Yâsir Radi Allahu anhu and (Imâm) Al-Hassan bin 'Ali alayhis 'salam used to favor 'Ali ibn Abu Tâlib alayhis 'salam over Abu Bakr al-Siddiq Radi Allahu anhu and Sayyedina 'Umar Radi Allahu anhu".
In the same book we Further read: "And he ('Ali ibn Abi Tâlib alayhis 'salam), according to Ammâr Radi Allahu anhu and Al-Hassan alayhis 'salam, is superior to Abu Bakr and 'Umar Radi Allahu anhuma".
This are just few resources , I can produce more Sunni resource to support that many Sahaba's and awliya believe Maula-e-Kainat alayhis 'salam are more exalted after Sarwar-e-Konain Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam.
Now please share some light how can a person be called Tafzili shia to have the same belief as of some of the sahaba and awliya-allah.
P.S. I am not talking about Rafizi's , i wanna know what are the ruling for sunni's who consider Imam Ali alayhis 'salam more exalted than any other sahaba.
Imâm Mâlik Radi Allahu anhu opinion was that one should not say that this Sahabi is definetly better than that, but to leave it to Allâh the Mighty and Majestic.
I agree with the above word's of Sayyedina Imam Malik Radi Allahu anhu
JazakAllahu khayrun
Ali Imame Manasto manam Ghulame Ali
hazar Jaan-e-Girami Fida-e-Naam-e-Ali
JAZZALLAHU ANNA SAYYEDINA MUHAMMADAN MA HUWA AHLAHU
MANAM SAGHE DARBARE JILANI
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Imam Sahib Qibla, I hope you are in the best of health and Imaan.
Respected Imam Sahib i read fatwa by Sayyedina Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Al-Qadiri Radi Allahu anhu and also your reply in one of the early question where , It was stated "If a person believe Sayyedina Imam Ali alayhis 'salam to be more exalted than Sayyedina Abu Bakr and Sayyedina Umar (radi Allahu anhuma) is tafzili shia etc"
But i learn from authentic Sunni source's that there were sahaba and awliya-allah who consider Sayyedina Imam Ali alayhis 'salam more exalted after Nabi-e-Karim Sayyedina Muhammad Mustafa Ahmed-e-Mujtaba Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam.
Here are some name which i recorded from the book of Sayyedina Abdul haq Muhaddis-e-Dehalvi Radi Allahu anhu who consider Maula-e-Kainat alayhis 'salam more praiseworthy after Sarwar-e-Konain Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
- Hazrat Abu Huraira
- Hazrat Salman Farsi
- Hazrat Mikdat
- Hazrat Zaid Bin Arkam
- Hazrat Abu Said Khuzri
- Hazrat Abuzar Ghefari
- Hazrat Jabir Ibne Abullah Ansari
- Hazrat Amar Yasir
- Hazrat Hassan Bin Tabit
- Hazrat Abu Aswat Dholi
- Hazrat Imam Zayd ash shaheed ibne Ali ibne Hussain ibne Ali
- Hazrat Imam Malik
- Hazrat Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal
- Hazrat Sheikh Shahab-ul-Din Suharwardi
- Hazrat Abdul Rehman Jami ridwanuallahi ta'ala ajmaeen.
further we read In al-Fisal (210/4), Ibn Hazm adh-Dhâhiri narrated from Ibn Abdul-Barr with his isnad that: "Ammâr bin Yâsir Radi Allahu anhu and (Imâm) Al-Hassan bin 'Ali alayhis 'salam used to favor 'Ali ibn Abu Tâlib alayhis 'salam over Abu Bakr al-Siddiq Radi Allahu anhu and Sayyedina 'Umar Radi Allahu anhu".
In the same book we Further read: "And he ('Ali ibn Abi Tâlib alayhis 'salam), according to Ammâr Radi Allahu anhu and Al-Hassan alayhis 'salam, is superior to Abu Bakr and 'Umar Radi Allahu anhuma".
This are just few resources , I can produce more Sunni resource to support that many Sahaba's and awliya believe Maula-e-Kainat alayhis 'salam are more exalted after Sarwar-e-Konain Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam.
Now please share some light how can a person be called Tafzili shia to have the same belief as of some of the sahaba and awliya-allah.
P.S. I am not talking about Rafizi's , i wanna know what are the ruling for sunni's who consider Imam Ali alayhis 'salam more exalted than any other sahaba.
Imâm Mâlik Radi Allahu anhu opinion was that one should not say that this Sahabi is definetly better than that, but to leave it to Allâh the Mighty and Majestic.
I agree with the above word's of Sayyedina Imam Malik Radi Allahu anhu
JazakAllahu khayrun
Ali Imame Manasto manam Ghulame Ali
hazar Jaan-e-Girami Fida-e-Naam-e-Ali