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Post by ahmadfaruq on Jan 26, 2007 18:40:33 GMT
the adhan that the voice coming out of a radio, a television or a loud-speaker is not a human voice. A worship done following a voice reaching you through one of them is not sahih (acceptable). An iman who is conducting namaz in jamaat on the movie screen or television cannot be followed. To follow him would be an act of bidat and a grave sin.]
It is written in Al-muqaddimat-ul-hadramiyya, Anwar, Al-fiqh-u-alal-madhahib-il- arba'a, and Misbah-un-najat, "In the Shafi'i Madhhab, if someone outside the mosque follows the imam inside, it will be necessary for him to sense the actions of the imam either by seeing the imam or someone who sees him in the jamaat, or by hearing the imam's or the muazzin's voice. Further more, the distance between him and the last line of the jamaat should not be more than three hundred dhras [300x0,42=126 meters] approximately." It is stated in Targhib-us-salat, "If a person is outside the mosque, his following the imam is sahih only when the mosque is full. If the mosque is not full or if it is full but there is a distance large enough for a cart (or car) to pass between the last line and the person outside the mosque, his following the imam will not be sahih." The fact that those prayers performed by following the voice in a loud speaker or the imam on television are not accepted is written in the twelfth issue of the magazine Al-Muallim, dated Rabi'ul- awwal, 1406 [December, 1985], and published by the Indian Muslim scholars of the city of Malappuram, Kerala, India. He corroborates his thesis by citing very strong and detailed proofs.
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Post by ottoman on Jan 26, 2007 18:56:19 GMT
shouting is necessary as much as to be heard in one's own district. More than this is not permitted. There is no need to use a loud-speaker. It is a bidat to practice the adhan or iqamat through a loud-speaker or radio broadcast. An ibadat done with bidat is not acceptable but sinful.] It is sunnat-i muakkada for men to call the adhan for five prayers each day, for performing the omitted [qada] prayers that are fard, and towards the Khatib at Friday prayers. It is makruh for women to say the adhan or the iqamat. For it is haram for them to raise their voice. The adhan is said at a high place in order to announce the time to others. But the adhan that is said for the ready jamaat or for oneself is said on the ground. [It is written in Tanwir-ul-azhan, "It is tahrimi makruh to say the adhan while sitting. It has been understood through tawatur that it (must) be said standing"]. The adhan or the iqamat is not said for the namaz of witr, 'Iyd, tarawih or janaza. It is not acceptable to call adhan before the prescribed time, it is a grave sin. The adhan or iqamat which is said before the time (of prayer) begins must be repeated after the time begins. It is not permissible to call the adhan like a song so as to add vowel points or letters or prolong the letters, or to listen to the adhan said or the Qur'an read in this manner.
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Post by fayazhalai on Jan 26, 2007 18:58:36 GMT
Brother where did you got this from??
Regarding namaaz that, should it be read on loudspeaker then there is iktilaaf among the Ahle sunnah scholars so one should remain quite on this issue.Regarding Azaan then it is an invitation and inviting people through loudspeakers seems nothing wrong.
Brother i will try to get some information regarding Namaaz on loudspeakers as Shaykh ul Islaam Hazrat Syed Madni Mian has written a beautiful answer on this issue making it permissiable for one to use loudspeaker in namaaz.
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Post by ottoman on Jan 26, 2007 18:59:28 GMT
"Rasulullah 'sallAllahu 'alaihi wa sallam' said to Bilal-i Habashi, 'Put your two fingers on your ears, so that your voice will be louder.' It is better to put the hands on the ears. For, it is not a sunnat to do so to perform the adhan. Yet it is a sunnat to do so to increase the voice. For the angel who said the adhan in the (above-named Sahabi's) dream did not do so. It was made a sunnat not in order to recite the adhan but in order to increase the voice . For the causal clause, 'so that your voice will be louder,' points to the hikmat in doing it. If the fingers are not put on the ears, the adhan will be better. If they are put on the ears, the voice being louder will be better." It is seen that to put the fingers on the ears is not a sunnat for the adhan, although it increases the voice. But, because it has been commanded, it is not a bidat, either. It is understood that the loudspeakers used in some mosques today, although they increase the voice, are not sunnat for the adhan and are bidat, and besides this, they cause the sunnat of raising the fingers to the ears to be omitted. It is seen that minarets are not constructed for some mosques on which loudspeakers are placed. [It is stated in the three hundred and twenty-second page of the fifth volume of Fatawa-yi-Hindiyya, "It is permissible to build a minaret in order to have the quarter hear the voice. It is not permissible if it is impossible." This comes to mean that using a loudspeaker is not permissible].
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Post by fayazhalai on Jan 26, 2007 19:03:55 GMT
A small word, but most often misunderstood, misused and misdirected by the ignorants.
INNOVATION(Bidat)
An act that does not trace its origin in the traditions and percepts of the Prophet(Sallallah hu allyhi wassalam) is called innovation,Bidat.It is of two kinds: (1)Virtuous innovation-Virtuous innovation is the innovation which is not opposed to the Prophetic traditions.For example,the construction of brick-built masjid,compilation of the Quraan in golden letters,affirmation of intention with toungue,teaching and learning Ilm-e-Kalam,grammar of Arabic language,its philology,semantics,Mathematics,geometry,Arithmetic and Numerology.There are so many practices like conferences,convocations and so on which never existed in the life time of the Prophet(Salallah hu allayhi wasallam).These are virtous innovations.Some of them are even essential(Wajib).As Hazrat Omar(Radiallah hu ta'ala an) said with reference to congregation of Taraweeh;What a virtous innovation it is!
(2)Heretical innovation-Heretical innovation is one,which is oppesed to the traditions and precepts of the Prophet(Salallah hu allayhi wasallam).Thus,it is undesirable or forbidden and unlawful.
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Post by ahmadfaruq on Jan 26, 2007 19:11:36 GMT
it is not permissible to say the adhan through the radio or with loudspeakers on minarets or to say it before its prescribed time or to listen to it as adhan. It is not acceptable, plus the fact that it is sinful. It must be said again compatibly with its conditions. For it is a sound made by electricity caused by the voice of an unknown, unseen person; especially, sound made by a record is not adhan at all. Furthermore, our Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) declared, "Those who do not worship as we do are not in our community." Adhan must be said at a high place by a pious Muslim as he (the Prophet) had it said. For instance, when the adhan for the early afternoon prayer is said before its prescribed time, the early sunnat of the early afternoon prayer is performed at a karahat time. Insisting on smaller sins develops into a grave sin.
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Post by ottoman on Jan 26, 2007 19:14:45 GMT
it is sinful to raise the voice more than necessary, what is produced by the loud-speaker is not the imam's or the muazzin's voice. Their voice turns into electricity and magnetism. So what is heard is the sound produced by electricity and magnetism. It is necessary to hear the voice of a person who is performing the same namaz. The namaz of those who follow the voice of someone who is not performing the same namaz, or the sound produced by any apparatus, is not sahih. It is written on the five hundred and seventeenth page of the first volume of the book Radd-ul-mukhtar, "If a hafiz's voice spreads out and gets multiplied on mountains, in desert, in forests or through any other means, these second sounds will not be the Qur'an. It is not necessary to perform sajda with the ayat of sajda heard from them." It is written in Halabi al-kabir that these recitals are not human recitals, but they are like human recitals. These clear statements by specialists of Islam show that it is wrong to read or listen to the adhan or the Qur'an al- karim through radios or loud-speakers or to perform namaz by following them. It is written in detail on page 2361 of the third volume of the book of Tafsir written by Muhammad Hamdi Effendi of Elmali that it is not permissible to call the adhan or to recite the Qur'an al-karim through a loudspeaker or on the radio. In especial, it is both not sahih and an abominable bidat to follow an imam in another building through a loudspeaker. It is a grave sin www.hizmetbooks.org
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Post by Saalik on Jan 26, 2007 21:26:25 GMT
Brother Ahmadfaruq and Brother Ottoman, without any intention to offend you, I would like to bring to your attention that regarding the Azaan issue, Brother Fayazhalai is right. It is very easy to copy and paste but care must be taken about the nature of the materials being posted, especially when same are read by many people with different level of knowledge and understanding. Instead of rendering our beautiful deen pleasant to follow it is being given a complicated facet. For just a moment leave your books aside and ponder on the following logic:- According to what is written in the ONLINE BOOK from which you have quoted, it is a grave sin to give the Azaan through loudspeakers which brings to the conclusion that we have been indulging in great sin for all these years and we are continuing to do so and this with the complicity of our "Great Scholars". Since the time loud speakers have been used to give the Azaan many Great & Emminent Sunni Scholars (most of them Awliyah Allah Radi Allahu Anhum) have come. Have any of them prohibited the act of giving the Azaan through loud speakers; have they gone to the extent of saying that it is a GRAVE SIN to do so. As Brother Fayazhalai has mentioned that the Great Shaykh ul Islaam Hazrat Syed Madni Mian has written a beautiful answer on this issue making it permissible for one to use loudspeaker in namaaz, it would be better not to ignore (by continuing to post such materials) what he is saying. Take care not to be indirectly disrespectful to the opinion of our GREAT SUNNI SCHOLARS ............................................. (I respect and appreciate your good intention of sharing - without prejudice)
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