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Post by Saalik on May 26, 2009 15:02:08 GMT
If, however, you would like further information about Ibn Taymiyyah, then check out my blog Insha'Allah - [/color] indefinable-stranger.blogspot.com/[/quote] Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuSister Indefinable, whatever questions you have to ask, you can post them here, in this thread. For instance we'll deal with this first: After noticing that apart from ibn taymiyya you have also an article about some sayings of Ibn Al-Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah on your blogspot, I have the following question for you: What is your opinion about him?Please don't post about his whole biography but only relevant information that would support your opinion. Thanks. |
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Post by Gulam-E-Sahib Quadeer on May 26, 2009 18:53:18 GMT
whose islam do you follow, madam Indefinable? Dr. Zakir Naik's or Ashraf Ali Thanvi's?
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Post by indefinable on May 26, 2009 20:24:43 GMT
Assalaamu alaykum warahmatullah,
Brother Saalik - I really don't see the point of this thread, I wanted to ask questions which were related to other threads, and now you are bombarding me with questions about Ibn Al-Qayyim Al Jawziyyah Rahimullah - I think very highly of him, and love reading his books. I also think he was a profound scholar and ofcourse he had a great teacher Ahmad bin `Abdil Halim Ibn Taymiyyah.
I am also grateful you took the time to browse my blog, considering how most of my posts are censored, if anything, it shows you are at least open minded Masha'Allah.
Wassalaam.
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Post by Saalik on May 26, 2009 20:38:34 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Sister Indefinable, Inshah Allah you'll see the point during the process. Since you have a high and positive opinion on Ibn Al-Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah how would you take what he wrote about the Superiority of the Blessed Souls. Will you have any doubt if you happen to know that he said: "When the pious die, their ability to help others does not diminish and end. They are alive in their graves and the power of their souls become stronger than when they were alive."
A general request to everyone who will also reply in this thread. Please be kind to Sister Indefinable and also Sister Indefinable please ask your questions in a way that will not provoke anyone otherwise it is obvious that you'll get similar responses.
Jazaak Allah Khairan.
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Post by indefinable on May 26, 2009 22:21:07 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuSister Indefinable, Inshah Allah you'll see the point during the process. Since you have a high and positive opinion on Ibn Al-Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah how would you take what he wrote about the Superiority of the Blessed Souls. Will you have any doubt if you happen to know that he said: "When the pious die, their ability to help others does not diminish and end. They are alive in their graves and the power of their souls become stronger than when they were alive."
A general request to everyone who will also reply in this thread. Please be kind to Sister Indefinable and also Sister Indefinable please ask your questions in a way that will not provoke anyone otherwise it is obvious that you'll get similar responses.
Jazaak Allah Khairan.
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Post by Saalik on May 26, 2009 22:55:04 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmaanir Rahim
Fiqh us Sunnah
Volume 004 : Funerals and Dhikr. Fiqh 4.095.
Section : The Abode of Souls.
Ibn al-Qayyim dealt with this subject under a separate chapter in which he mentions opinions of various scholars concerning the abode of souls. Mentioning the most correct position he explained, "It is said that the abodes of the souls in barzakh vary considerably. Some of them are in the highest reaches of the heavens, such as the souls of the Prophets (Alayhimus Salaam). Their status also varies as observed by the Beloved Prophet Salla Allahu Ta'ala Alayhi Wa Sallam during the night of Isra."
Some souls are in the form of green birds who roam around freely in Paradise. These are the souls of some of the martyrs, but not all of them. The souls of some martyrs are prevented from entering Paradise on account of their debts or some other similar thing. This is supported by a report by Ibn Hanbal Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhu in his Musnad from Muhammad ibn Abdallah ibn Jahsh Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhu that "A man came to the Beloved Prophet Salla Allahu Ta'ala Alayhi Wa Sallam and asked, 'O Allah's Prophet Salla Allahu Ta'ala Alayhi Wa Sallam! What would I have if I am killed in the cause of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala?' The Beloved Prophet Salla Allahu Ta'ala Alayhi Wa Sallam replied, 'Paradise.' But, when the man got up to go, the Beloved Prophet Salla Allahu Ta'ala Alayhi Wa Sallam added, 'Unless you have some debts to pay. Hazrat Gibrail Alayhis Salaam has informed Me about it just now'."
Some souls will be locked out at the gate of Paradise, in accordance with this hadith: "I have seen your companion locked out at the gate of Paradise." Other souls are restricted to their graves as is evident from the hadith about the martyr who had stolen a cloak (He had stolen it out of the spoils of war before their proper distribution) when he was killed, the people asked, "Will he have bliss in Paradise?" The Beloved Prophet Salla Allahu Ta'ala Alayhi Wa Sallam said, "By Him in whose hand is my soul, the cloak which he stole causes a fire to flare over him in his grave."
The abode of others is at the gate of Paradise, as described in a hadith by Sayyidinah Ibn 'Abbas Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhu that, "The abode of martyrs is in a green dome, on a bright river, near the gate of Paradise. Their provision comes from Paradise in the morning and in the evening.'' (Ahmad) This does not apply to Ja'far ibn Abi Talib Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhu, whose hands were transformed into wings, and with these he flies wherever he wishes in Paradise.
Others remain confined to earth, for these souls cannot rise to heaven. Indeed, these are base, earthly souls which do not mix with the heavenly souls, just as they do not mix with them during their sojourn on earth. A soul that is oblivious to its Lord, blind to His love, negligent of His remembrance, and remiss in seeking His pleasure is a despicable earthly soul. After separation from its body, it cannot go anywhere, but remains here. On the other hand, the heavenly soul in this life clings to the love of Allah and to His remembrance, and seeks His pleasure and nearness. After separation from its body, it will join other kindred heavenly souls. In the barzakh (Literally an interval, a separation or a partition, Al-barzakh may be defined as the intervening state between death and the Last Day) and on the Day of Resurrection a person will be with those he loved. Allah will join some souls with others in the abode of barzakh and on the Day of Resurrection, placing the believer's soul with other pure souls, that is, other pure souls kindred to his soul. A soul, after separation from the body, joins other kindred souls who in their nature and deeds are similar to it and stays with them.
Some souls would be thrown in an oven or a pit along with other fornificators and harlots. Other souls would be in a river of blood, floating therein and swallowing rocks. The two categories of souls - the blessed and the d**ned - do not share a similar abode, for there are souls that reside in the highest reaches of heavens, while the others, low and mean earthly souls, cannot rise above the earth.
When one ponders on the hadith and traditions on this subject carefully, one can easily find the reason for this. There is no contradiction in the sound traditions on this subject. In fact, they are all true and each supports the other.
It is important, however, to understand the soul and to appreciate its essence and the laws that govern its functions. Indeed, the soul is something completely different from the body.
It is in Paradise, but at the same time is attached to the grave and the body in it.
It is the swiftest thing in moving, relocating, ascending, or descending from one place to another.
These souls are divided into various categories:
The ones that are free to move about, those that are confined, the ones that are celestial, and the others that are earthly and of a low order. After separation from their bodies, souls do experience health and sickness, and they feel far more pleasure and pain than they experienced when they were joined together. They are subject to confinement, pain, punishment, sickness, and grief as they are to various states of joy, rest, bliss, and freedom. How similar is its condition in the body to when it was in the womb of its mother! And likewise how analogous is its situation after separation from the body to when it came out of the womb into this world! There are four abodes of the soul, and each abode is bigger and greater than the previous one.
The soul's first abode is the womb of the mother, where there is confinement, compression, seclusion, and three layers of darkness.
The second abode is its earthly habitat where it grows, does good and evil, and accumulates blessings for its ultimate success or failure.
Its third abode is the abode of barzakh, which is more spacious and immense than the abode of this world. This abode, compared to the fourth one, is like this [third] abode compared to the first abode.
The fourth abode is the abode of eternity, either Paradise or Hell. There is no other abode after these. Allah causes the soul to pass through these abodes in stages, until it reaches the abode most suitable for it, an abode that only it deserves and for which it is [uniquely] suitable, because this abode was created for it, and the soul was given the ability to perform the deeds that lead precisely to this abode.
In each abode the soul enjoys a peculiar status and position altogether different from what it has in other abodes. Blessed indeed is soul's Originator and Creator, Who gives it life, causes it to die, makes it happy or subjects it grief and sorrow.
Blessed is He Who appointed for it various levels of success and failure, and distinguished them by various grades in accordance with their knowledge, performance, faculties, and morality. Whoever truly understands and appreciates this cannot, but bear witness to the fact that there is no deity except Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala, Who has no partners. With Him alone rests all authority, praise, and all that is good, and to Him alone all affairs return for decision. His is the absolute authority, and all dominion, might, honour, wisdom, and perfection free of any defects or imperfections. He is known through the testimony of His truthful Prophets and Messengers (Alayhimus Salaam). They did indeed come with Truth. Reason testifies to its truthfulness, and nature supports and confirms it. And anything that contradicts this testimony is untrue.
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Post by Saalik on May 26, 2009 22:59:14 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmaanir Rahim
Question: Some people argue that once the pious have died - their ability to help anyone ceases. So, why do people still go to their graves to seek help?
Answer: When the pious die, their ability to help others does not diminish and end. They are alive in their graves and the power of their souls become stronger than when they were alive. If you cover a living person with a blanket, he would not be able to recognise those who pass by, but it has been proved from narrations that the deseased can recognise and hear the footsteps of those who pass by the grave. A living person cannot understand what the birds are saying, but the deceased can hear and understand exactly what they are saying. Also, a living person cannot travel millions of miles faster than the blink of an eye, but the deceased can travel many millions of miles faster than the blink of the eye. An example of this is when one sleeps, one can travel many miles and break the physical laws of this world. In the same way the deceased can break the laws of this world, as their spiritual bodies are stronger.
Hafidhh Ibn al Qayyim writes that the deceased are pleased with those people who attend the funeral or those who stand at his grave. When people pass the grave and convey their salaams, he [the person in the grave] returns the salaams and also recognises the person who has conveyed the salaam. When the birds praise Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala, the person in the grave also understands the birds’ praises (i.e. what the birds are saying).
The martyrs’ souls are in heaven, and when people convey their salaam to them at their graves, they come back to their grave and return the salaam.
The ordinary souls at the very highest of the seven skies are at a place called Illiyin and when someone greets them with salaam, they come back to their grave, answer the salaam and also recognise the person. As in the case with people who are alive - some are strong and some are weak. In the same way, some souls are stronger than others like in the case of the pious. The more pious the person is, the stronger the soul.
There could be some people who do not believe in what has been written, but Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala has created those people who believe this and their hearts verify it. Every Muslim should believe that the deceased soul meets other souls, in the same way that the living people meet each other and this is proved in the Qur`an Shareef.
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says in the Qur’an, in Surah az Zumr Verse 42:
Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala) takes away the souls at the time of their death and of those who don’t die during their sleep. Then He with holds that against which He has decreed death and sends back the other until an appointed time.
Imam Sudayy Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhu says that Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala takes souls when people are asleep, and the deceased souls and people who are alive come together and discuss issues in their dreams. The deceased souls can give the living information that other people do not know. Sometimes they can inform people when people are going to die. In different matters, they guide the living.
There were two Companions (Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhun) of the Noble Prophet Salla Allahu Ta'ala Alayhi Wa Sallam called Salman Farsi and Abd Allah bin Salam Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhum. They both said that whoever dies first, he would inform the other what had happened to him. Abd Allah bin Salam Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhu died first and appeared in Salman Farsi’s Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhu dream. Abd Allah Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhu then informed Salman Farsi Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhu that out of all of his good deeds, Allah Wa Ta'alah liked one particular deed the most, which was perfect reliance of God, so Salman continued having unshakable tust in Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.
Ibn Sirin Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhu appeared in his friends dream and said that Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala has given him paradise. The dreamer asked him about Hasan al Basri Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhu. He said Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala has given him a higher status than himself. There was another Companion called Mas’ar Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhu and he used to appear in peoples’ dreams and inform them to attend dhikr gatherings since Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala was pleased with this act. Similarly, many people have seen Hafidhh ibn Taymiyya in their dream, and they have asked him very complex fiqh questions, and Hafidhh ibn Taymiyya has answered them and satisfied them all.
Some people might say that these are only dreams and we don’t know whether they are right or wrong so how can we trust them? But they should know that when the deceased gives news about a person who is going to die at a particular time; or says that on a particular day rain will fall; or there will be famine; or the enemy will attack; or there will be trouble; or if he gives that kind of news that nobody knows accept him, these will become reality. These types of facts are only ignored by a person who is unaware of the power of the spirits. It is also a fact that if many Muslims see a similar dream, this becomes evidence like Beloved Prophet Muhammad Salla Allahu Ta'ala Alayhi Wa Sallam said to His Companions Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anhum: all of your dreams show that the Night of Power (Laylat al Qadr) will be on the last ten days of Ramadan.
What I have written is not all from the dreams. The Power of Souls, I have proved from the Qur’an and Sunna in the last chapter.
Reference: Kitab ar Ruh, a summary of chapters 1, 2, 3 and 15, Hafidhh Ibn Al-Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah.
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Post by asif trying 2 b rabbani on May 27, 2009 17:09:51 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
mashallah brother saalik very noble thing to do, sister indefinable we are here to help you and advice you, don't feel we are against you.we will all be happy to hear your views,may you enlighten us on where we go wrong,and may we enlighten you.
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