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Post by Haarith on Apr 14, 2008 18:14:06 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
As if the Danish cartoons weren't enough, on 27th March a Dutch parliamentarian (named Geert Wilders) released a 15 minute long anti-Islamic film. This controversial film, which has been discussed (both on national and international platform) since months before it's release is called: Fitna the movie. The movie shows verses from the Quran and pictures of terrorist attacks such as 9/11, beheadings and more. It is released in both Dutch and English.
Many other Dutch parliamentarians (including the Prime Minister) were against this film, but because of the democratic right of freedom in speech and opinion they didn't stop Geert Wilders.
How different is such an anti-Islamic film from the Danish cartoons? And what is the best way to react to this film?
Please vote. Wassalamu 'alaykum
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fatma
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Post by fatma on Apr 14, 2008 19:54:02 GMT
me personally hadn't even heard of this film until this poll turned up.
i would just ignore it as Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala will give the producers of this film what they deserve.
obvious answers are to protest and sign petitions and then boycott danish products as that does have an impact on the economy and maybe will bring some sense into the government who will in future make a more appropriate stand against such issues.
although i would like to see what the danish government would do if there was an anti-christian film made showing negative parts of christianity. i'm sure they would then ban the film before release and there wouldn't even be an issue of freedom of speech.
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
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Post by Sabs on Apr 14, 2008 20:01:20 GMT
the 9/11 attacks were carried out by CIA and Mossad
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Post by king786 on Apr 14, 2008 20:14:09 GMT
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Post by shamshuddin on Apr 14, 2008 22:55:09 GMT
me personally hadn't even heard of this film until this poll turned up. i would just ignore it as Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala will give the producers of this film what they deserve. obvious answers are to protest and sign petitions and then boycott danish products as that does have an impact on the economy and maybe will bring some sense into the government who will in future make a more appropriate stand against such issues. although i would like to see what the danish government would do if there was an anti-christian film made showing negative parts of christianity. i'm sure they would then ban the film before release and there wouldn't even be an issue of freedom of speech. Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuHeres a link, news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7317506.stmThe reason you havent seen too much about it is because the media are only interested if there are widesperad riots, burning of effigys, attacks on dutch embassies etc etc. The best answer would be to make a film directly opposite to what has been made but i doubt this would get even a blink of the eye outside of muslim circles. Ps, the film was made by a dutch filmaker not danish
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Post by Sister Nomee on Apr 15, 2008 7:23:32 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
Good poll, I voted other as I would hold protests, sign petitions etc I would not make a film slandering the bible etc after all the bible is also Ahle kitaab, 2 wrongs do not make a right!
This is all ignorance on the behalf of the Danish producer we have to remember that the Dutch government was against the film too.
May these people be shown the light and give Islam and Muslims the utmost respect that we deserve ameen.
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
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Post by Abdul Rafiq on Apr 15, 2008 12:22:22 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa SallamGood poll, I voted other as I would hold protests, sign petitions etc I would not make a film slandering the bible etc after all the bible is also Ahle kitaab, 2 wrongs do not make a right! This is all ignorance on the behalf of the Danish producer we have to remember that the Dutch government was against the film too. May these people be shown the light and give Islam and Muslims the utmost respect that we deserve ameen. Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Reading your reply sister i would agree on making a counter productive film. But i dont think muslims would stoop as low as these extremists, attacking another religion or its beliefs. I think Haarith means making a film which shows the truth, the real Islam and all of its positive aspects if not mistaken. Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
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Post by sunniboy on Apr 15, 2008 12:31:38 GMT
me personally hadn't even heard of this film until this poll turned up. i would just ignore it as Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala will give the producers of this film what they deserve. obvious answers are to protest and sign petitions and then boycott danish products as that does have an impact on the economy and maybe will bring some sense into the government who will in future make a more appropriate stand against such issues. although i would like to see what the danish government would do if there was an anti-christian film made showing negative parts of christianity. i'm sure they would then ban the film before release and there wouldn't even be an issue of freedom of speech. Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuHeres a link, news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7317506.stmThe reason you havent seen too much about it is because the media are only interested if there are widesperad riots, burning of effigys, attacks on dutch embassies etc etc. The best answer would be to make a film directly opposite to what has been made but i doubt this would get even a blink of the eye outside of muslim circles. Ps, the film was made by a dutch filmaker not danish I think if you live in Holland or the surrounding countries you'll find this has hardly ever been out of the news. They are saying its their right, freedom of speech to say what they want when they want. Of course if some maligned muslims made a film about judaism or zionists then they would be ostracised immediately as being intolerant, insenstive, racist, zenophobic etc. If its Islam then its okay to stick the boot in, and its freedom of speech! Where is the voice of reason in this civilised and educated western society of our times? It went into hibernation immediately after 9/11.
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Post by ahmad786 on Apr 15, 2008 16:22:29 GMT
where can you see this film b4 you vote?
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Post by Musa Kareem on Apr 15, 2008 16:37:41 GMT
where can you see this film b4 you vote? You dont need to see it, JUST USE YR COMMON SENSE.
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Post by Muhammad Shoaib on Apr 17, 2008 12:44:51 GMT
Most non-muslim educated and civilised people can see through the contempt of this film maker.
Publicty seeker who doesnt deserve our attention.
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Post by Haarith on Apr 18, 2008 5:10:37 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
I have voted for Make a counter film as the best method. My concern is over the watchers of Fitna the Movie... those who have no or little knowlegde of Islam. If we as Muslims don't do anything, these group of watchers may start to believe the false message of the film. I think neglecting the impact of the film would be neglecting our job as Muslims.
A counter film doesn't necessarily mean a disrespectful film. (I didn't mean it in the disrespectful way in the voting alternatives). Anyway The Arab European League has made a counter movie called Al Mouftinoun in which is shown how Muslim prisoners are being tortured by Americans.
Wassalamu 'alaykum
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Post by Ashiq e Rasool on Apr 18, 2008 9:05:13 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam I too voted for make a counter film. I agree with brother haarith, well said brother, we have to portray the real true Islam, the peaceful Islam, and a film or movie portraying that , would be ideal showing the ignorant and the west, that Islam is a very peaceful religion and how Islam has been attacked over the years, by the west and the media and the west's governments with their hidden greed agenda's. Also highlighting that the majority of Muslims do not agree with terrorism in any way, but highlight the fact of frustrations of the Palestinian people and the war on Iraq and Afghanistan and how this can anger and breed ignorant terrorist who get entrapped by extreme sects and leaders who use these plights as way of attacking the west and spreading hatred as well as giving Islam a bad name. Also pointing to the fact how the west and media have manipulated the situation by giving extremist a platform and linking it to Islam, when it is so far removed from the real Islam.
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Post by fatma on Apr 18, 2008 12:15:39 GMT
when films like this are made then it actually sometimes gets people curious about the religion and researching it thus making more muslims rather than the opposite. as before they were unaware and now they are intrigued.
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Post by Muhammad Zaynul Abideen on Apr 22, 2008 17:05:01 GMT
ny opinion is that to boycott dutch products because why should we buy thier products if they are allowed to do put things that are against Islam in a film that a lot of people are going to buy
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Post by nizamuddin on May 11, 2008 9:23:37 GMT
ny opinion is that to boycott dutch products because why should we buy thier products if they are allowed to do put things that are against Islam in a film that a lot of people are going to buy i agree with that, because its better than just ignoring the mentality this way you are actually doing something to hurt the govrnment who supported and didnt ban this film.
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Post by ibneazhar on May 12, 2008 10:55:19 GMT
Prof Dr Mas'ud Ahmed Passed away inna lillahi wa inna ilahi rajioon
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Post by Sag E Dargah E Jilani on May 12, 2008 18:05:40 GMT
dear brother what ha this got to do with this thread?
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Post by sajjad dar ashrafi on May 26, 2008 18:51:53 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
I think firstly we need to have unity within our religion and then boycott them
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Post by sinful but yet hopeful on Nov 27, 2008 12:13:09 GMT
boycotting danish products wudnt that also effect the buisness of the muslims living in that country, well do i punish you for someone else committing the mistake, we all dont see this clearly, go to youtube and see what the people make about our beloved aaqa muhammad saw, what they write about the quran this is non muslims in england, shall we boycott british brands, well tell me how we do that, what did them companies do to us, nothing so why punish it, if we were to boycott british compeanies we cant eat the meat that comes into this country, we wont do anything cos they do end up dealing woith a british company i hope you get my drift, best thing will be peaceful protests, petitions, writing to your local newpapers, making a video in ressponse putting up on qtv noor tv and there are many other ways. but not by boycotin danish products
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