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Post by qadir on Jul 27, 2007 17:15:49 GMT
silsala-e-idreesia The era we are living in is full of fitnas and some people are disguise themselves in the cover of Sufis but they never practise or preach Sufism.some of them even spreading wahabiyat ,shiiteyat and orther non muslim beliefs on the name of Sufism.i think this type of dodge pirs are more big danger than a wahabis or orther bad aqeedas. mr sheikh amin is one of them,he dose not hold the islamic beliefs.i have met him and know him well im going to put some light on this so-called pir who name is sheikh amin and live in shah rukan alam colony multan. This so-called pir believes and claims that Allah and Prophet Mohammad(SAW) has dwell in him. This so-called pir claims that there is only 3 things exisit in the universe Allah,Nabi(pbuh)and him. This so-called pir declare himself the biggest sufi in the world. This so-called pir dose not accept the existence of hazrat sheikh abdul qadir jilaniRadi Allahu anhu This so-called pir don't allow his disiples to read any islamic books becouse he believes by reading islamic books one cant get the faiz and islamic books are very compilicated to understand. This so-called pir says if any one listen his lectures will get more faiz than by reading any islamic books. This so-called pir never explain his beleifs and the base of his silsala he would only say come to me join me, the moment u see me you will get all the answers you have in your mind and if you are non-muslim you will bring iman as u see my face.his murids claim that not all the peoples became muslims after seeing the face of Nabi paak(pbuh)but if any one see the face of our sheikh sahib will Bring iman and will go to jannat. This man prevented his murids from visiting mizarats and graves.he claims that wahabis,shias deobandis and even qadyanis are muslims becouse they all are kalma go.he reject hadis sharif of 73 sects in islam. He claims that he speaks with Nabi paak on daily bases and what ever he hear from Nabi paak ,he tell to his murids. His murids claims that Nabi paak did not go alone to see Allah on mehraj night but this so-called pir was with Nabi paak in this journey to see Allah paak. If any one ask from this so-called pir,from whom did you take faiz to pass it on,who are his ulema mashayaikh who gave him permission,what is history of his silsala.he cant even give any proof of it.this man is a big lair and his aqeeda is total kufar he is spreading kufar and bad aqeedgee on the name of sufiyat. if a muslim dont accept all the prophets of God or reject the existence of any messenger of God,can we call him a muslim after that? silsale idreesia's founder was a ghair molaqad wahabi(and is proved) ahmad ibn idris.he wanted to preach wahabiyat on the name of sufism his forefathar was a shia. but main thing is if sheikh amin is a muslim?he can be muslim if he make toba and accept the real aqida of islam. main Allah ki qasam se ilan karta hon ke sheikh amin ki toba sabat nahi ha is liye wo abhi tak kafar ha aur main os ke tamam muridon se yeh baat karana chata hon ke ager aap main zara sa iman baqi ha to Allah ke naam ka wasta mera yakin kro ke sheikh amin kafar ha.aur anpnay aap ko Allah ke deen moqadas ke naam per os sheetan se door ho jawo. Allah hum saab ko sheetan se mehfoz rakhay. nafseislam.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1248&st=0entry2475
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Post by MRT on Jul 27, 2007 23:48:46 GMT
Brother its the sign of the times all these things have been predicted. When true shaykhs will be abused by their own family and folk, those without ilm will be preaching to the masses. Just look at Baghdad, hijaz, and throughout india HOW MANY SHRINES AND MAZAHARS have been levelled BY HINDUS, AMERICANS, SHIAS AND WAHHABIS. So these jhute babas (and dont start me on DM digital ) are all predicted. All they want is mureeds and their money.
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Post by Musalman on Jul 28, 2007 13:22:56 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Brother you should get a photo of this ''fake' pir, so we know who he is.
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Post by qadir on Jul 28, 2007 13:37:23 GMT
assalam o aalaikum brother keep visiting nafseislam.com/forum/index.ph...#entry2475there is a debate going on with this shetani sheikh amin's murids.there are some follwers of this shetan in london too.there was a detailed post about this sheikh amin which exposed him on www.yanabi.com but they have deleted it.i hope we all sunnis are united to expose all kind fitnas in islam.isha Allah.
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Post by qadir on Jul 28, 2007 13:41:14 GMT
sheikh amin's murids even call him God's greatest messenger(maz Allah) SHAIKH MOHAMMAD AMEEN BIN ABDURRAHMAN SHEIK SHAIB IS THE GREATEST GOD MESSENGER visit this link en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=103644876sheikh amin is a qadyani sponcer fitna he dose not care about shariyat and keeps long hair like women zulf(40 to 50 inch long) shariyat islami dont allow man to keep so long hairs and a real sufi is who full fill shariyat 100% and this so-called pir sheikh amin stay all the time in airconditioned rooms his nafs cant even take the heat of multan and his murids call him the biggest sufi of the world. here is the fatwa of sheikh amin's kufar by dawate islami www.dawateislami.net/services/askim...=23505&scatid=02nd fatwa of sheikh amin's kufar by Allama Hafiz Muhammad Arif Golrhvi see question nummber 873 www.yanabiallah.net/
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Post by qadir on Jul 28, 2007 13:42:57 GMT
this so-called pir sheikh amin dont allow any body to take his photo becouse he says it is haram in shariyat,but there are many hidden camaras in his property(his hujra) and watch all the visiting peoples including women.is it not haram too? sheikh amin is a kafar keep away from this shetan.
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Post by sunniboy on Jul 28, 2007 19:20:41 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
brother, the wiki link you posted doesnt work unless its deleted.
Do you have any direct proof besides forums.
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Post by ahmad786 on Jul 28, 2007 23:46:17 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Theres nothing on the other link either.
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Post by qadir on Jul 29, 2007 10:30:25 GMT
brother try this link i dont understand why they have deleted? en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sheikh_Amin&oldid=103644876mind sheikh amin's followers are very active in uk and they contact with visiting peoples from pakistan and give them jobs and money and ask them to join sheikh amin's mehfils in walthamstow london ( SHAIKH MOHAMMAD AMEEN BIN ABDURRAHMAN SHEIK SHAIB IS THE GREATEST GOD MESSENGER ) Shaikh Mohammad Ameen bin Abdurrahman is a prominent sufi Shaikh. He spent most of his time in Saudi Arabia in the past. He is now based in Multan, a city in southern Punjab. His followed are believed to be in many thousands and are on rise. His followers gather at his house in Shah Rukn-e-Alam Colony in Multan, which is converted to a mosque. He belongs to the Idreesia stem of Sufism which originated in North Africa ( Morrocco and Egypt ) as compared with the Iranian-Indian orders and stems of sufism which have been traditionally popular in Pakistan . He is one of a kind, no one in the world at this moment could match him in Sufism. A truly great man with vast knowledge of both material and spiritual worlds. A great scholar and religous leader. He has dedicated his life for the love of the noble Prophet of Islam, syedna Muhammad {Sallallaho alaihay wasallam}. Any one in search of the soul of Islam should visit him and find the utmost peace and pleasure from his knowledge and experience. He states " no one will go empty handed from him what ever his intentions may be". Muslims understand the spiritual element of islam from his teachings. Shaikh Ameen's methods of initiating followers into his sufi discipline include the Zikr Khafi or silent recital. THEIR PRECHERS LOVED HIM MUCH AND MORE. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Amin"
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Post by qadir on Jul 29, 2007 10:44:37 GMT
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Post by Fana fi Shaykh on Jul 29, 2007 10:56:27 GMT
Just look at Baghdad, hijaz, and throughout india HOW MANY SHRINES AND MAZAHARS have been levelled BY HINDUS, AMERICANS, SHIAS AND WAHHABIS. Which shrine is levelled in India.
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Post by sunni slave on Jul 29, 2007 11:03:26 GMT
Just look at Baghdad, hijaz, and throughout india HOW MANY SHRINES AND MAZAHARS have been levelled BY HINDUS, AMERICANS, SHIAS AND WAHHABIS. Which shrine is levelled in India. I only know of the masjid in Ayudya which was stormed and destroyed by the hindu terrorists.
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Post by Hasan Askari on Jul 29, 2007 11:34:44 GMT
sheikh amin's murids even call him God's greatest messenger(maz Allah) In what context what this said.
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Post by qadir on Jul 31, 2007 8:43:31 GMT
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Post by qadir on Jul 31, 2007 8:48:23 GMT
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Post by Sister Nomee on Jul 31, 2007 8:57:44 GMT
JazakAllah khairun brother for the warnings about this tareeqa and the sheikh to be honest I have never heard of them both before.
A humble request before making these comments which some may call as slanderous or false it is best to provide 100% correct evidence from sunni scholars after reading from the link it does not say much really against this sheikh.
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
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Post by qadir on Jul 31, 2007 18:56:03 GMT
brother its not it not slanderous or false informations i did send the link of fatwa of dawate islami about this sheikh amin pls visit this site www.dawateislami.net/services/askimam/urdu/viewdetail.aspx?qid=23505&scatid=0and 2nd fatwa of Allama Hafiz Muhammad Arif Golrhvi 873 JAVEED KHAN assalamu aalaikum shah rokon alam colony mutan shreef main aik namnehad peer shiekh amin say molaqat k duran os nay dawa kiya k ghuas paak Radi Allahu anhu ka haqeeqat say kohi taloq nahi tha bus yeh aik afsanay k ilawa aur kuch nahi,is k ilawa os nay aik aur dawa kiya k poori kiynat main siraf 3 chizon ka wajood ha nummber 1 allah ki zaat nummber 2 nabi paak aur nummber 3 main (shiek amin) aur kisi chothi (4th) chiz ka kohi wajood nahi.yeh namnehad peer logoon ko wazaeef be parnay ko deta ha kiya iss kay wazaif parnae theek hain ya nahi aur kiya iss adami ko musalman mana ja sakta ha? jizak allah yeh sheikh kafir hey,murtad hey.fiqah ki kutub main mojood hey.murtad kafir se bura hey.daaera e islam se kharij hey.aise sheikh ka bataya howa wazifa shirkiya na ho aur quran o sunnat ke khilaf na ho,perhna jaaez hey.jese keh hadees main hey keh hazrat abu hurairah ko shaitaan ne wazifa bataya aur Allah ke nabi ne jaaez rakha.poori hadees mishkaat main dekh sakte hai.yeh bhi misle shaitaan hey. jazak Allah o khair Allama Hafiz Muhammad Arif Golrhvi 7/23/2006 1:22:20 PM www.yanabiallah.net/
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Post by Saalik on Jul 31, 2007 18:56:20 GMT
Bismillah-hir-Rahmaan-nir-Raheem Assalaatu Wassalaamu Alayka Yaa Sayyadi Yaa Rasulallah Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Aalehi Wa Sallam Brother Qadir, has any other Sunni Scholars said anything on this matter. The daawateislami link provides only an answer to the question that has been asked, it's not a fatwah. As it can be clearly seen in the answer there is no direct mention of this person's name. It must also be noted that the answer is carefully answered on a general basis. As for the www.yanabiallah.net/ link can you please give the direct link to what has been said on the matter so as to spare any one desiring to know further, the time to search through the site. From whatever can be read in the question it's condemnable. Jazaak Allah for informing. Sallalaahu Alan Nabiyyil Ummiyi Wa Alaa Aalehi Wa Sallam Salaatanw Wa Salaaman Alaika Yaa Rasulullah..[/b]
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Post by qadir on Jul 31, 2007 19:35:38 GMT
Question? 4/5/2007 assalam o aalaikum 5 saal qabal meyri molaqat aik adami jis ka naam sheikh amin ha say howi yeh adami apnay aap ko duniya ka sab say bara sufi peer manta ha.sheikh amin shah rukan alam colony multan main rahta ha aur apna taloq silsale idreesia say batata ha.main nay bohat koshish ki k silsale idreesia kay bare main malomat hasil kar sakon likin mugh ko kohi kamyabi nahi mili,yeh silsale idreesia kiya ha? baherhal sheikh amin kay asal aqeeday kay bare main bi mugh ko shaq ha k aya yeh kis aqeeday ka malik ha? sheikh amin apnay baray main ajeeb o ghareeb kisam kay daway karta ha jin ki muhtasar tafil yoon ha (1)Allah aur Nabi(pbuh)dono meyray jisam main dahil hain(2)tamam kiynat main Allah Nabi(pbuh)aur meyray (sheikh amin)kay ilawa kisi aur chiz ka wajood nahi ha (3)Nabi (pbuh)ko jis nay dekha wo sab mosalman na ban sakay likin jis kisi nay bi mugh ko (sheikh amin) dekh liya wo musalman ban giya aur janaat lazim ho gi (4)wahabi,deobanidi shia qadyani sab muslim hain k wo bi calmagoo hain jis nay qadyani ko kafar qarar diya os ka aur os ki olad ka badtareen anjam howa (5)hazraat sheikh abdul qadir jilani ka haqeeqat say taloq nahi ha bas yeh aik afsana hi ha jis nay sheikh abdul qadir jilani ko mana wo kafar ho giya (maz allah) yeh batin os sheetani sheikh nay apni zuban say ada ki aur main nay bi soni hain. kiya asay aqeeday wala adami mosalman ho sakta ha? afsas kay sheikh amin jasa napaak adami oillya Allah kay azim shaher multan sharif main qayam karte howay apnay nappak aqeed ko sada logon main phila raha ha. wahabi deobaniyon nay Allah ka naam istamal karte howay islam ki asal rooh say muslims ko door kiya aur aab yeh sheikh amin Nabi(pbuh)ka naam mubarak istamal kar kay logon ko bad aqeeda bana raha ha.sheikh amin kay mureed to os ko Allah ka nabi bi likhte hain is ki misal yeh link ha jo aap ko arsal kar raha hon (SHAIKH MOHAMMAD AMEEN BIN ABDURRAHMAN SHEIK SHAIB IS THE GREATEST GOD MESSENGER ) en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sheikh_Amin&oldid=103644876 omeed ha kay aap jawab tafsili ata karin. jizak Allah. Imam's Reply:
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Post by Sister Nomee on Jul 31, 2007 19:49:52 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
Brother Qadir in order to get the message across in the correct manner would it be possible to get these " replies/comments" in English as not all of our forum users are urdu speakers.
JazakAllah khairun.
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
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