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Post by nida on Apr 7, 2010 8:27:07 GMT
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Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Do we get any reward for doing any help to non-muslims? I know that we are not allowed to give charity to them but if they ask for some help, then..... what to do.....
Is it sin for doing wrong things (back-biting, deceiving etc) to them?
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
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Post by hal786 on Apr 10, 2010 14:40:17 GMT
Asslmau Alaykum i personally dont see anything wrong with helping a non muslim out.If you do help them out Sister they will view us muslims in a postive way.
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Post by thc on Apr 11, 2010 7:46:34 GMT
walaikum salaam!
There is reward in helping non muslims. deceiving them backbiting them is a sin.
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Post by hal786 on Apr 11, 2010 7:54:04 GMT
Asslmau Alaykum bhai where have you read in the quran and sunnah that deceiving the gory is a sin.Please do let me know Jazakallah.
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Post by Sultani Sister on Apr 11, 2010 19:38:25 GMT
ASSALAMU 'ALYKUM WA REHMATULLAHI WA BARAKATUHU
ASSALATO WASALAM ALYKA YA RASOOL ALLAH (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam)
HAQ BAHU SACH BAHU
YES its good to help nonmuslims too but becareful zakaat is only be given to muslims except it we can help nonmuslims through money n whatever they are in need .
and about back biting its a great sin indeed whether its of muslim or non muslim
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Post by nida on Apr 11, 2010 20:26:39 GMT
ASSALAMU 'ALYKUM WA REHMATULLAHI WA BARAKATUHU
ASSALATO WASALAM ALYKA YA RASOOL ALLAH (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam)
HAQ BAHU SACH BAHU
and about back biting its a great sin indeed whether its of muslim or non muslim Any referance pl? I have heard, it is not sin if do backbiting of non-muslims.
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Post by nida on Apr 11, 2010 20:28:23 GMT
Asslmau Alaykum i personally dont see anything wrong with helping a non muslim out.If you do help them out Sister they will view us muslims in a postive way. Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhuyes, it is true. but will we get any reward or no
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Post by sarfaraz on Apr 11, 2010 20:40:21 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Do people really weigh that up before helping someone out? "Only if I get any reward will I help someone out", surely that way of thinking is flawed.
Say you found a non-muslim with a pushchair struggling to open a door and you were walking past wearing islamic clothes basically being a "beacon for Islam" and you just walked straight past. You saw that person and that person saw you. Even if you don't get any reward would you not help that person?
What impression would that put in the non-muslims eyes? We should be striving to set an example not use pitiful excuses to excuse our actions.
Also with the back biting question, a quick google will give lots of references to say why it's not allowed even about a non-muslim (depending on what's said) but I don't know how many of them are sunni sources so I've not posted any. Backbiting is a character flaw and to try and justify it by saying they're non-muslims... well I can't quite understand it.
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Post by Areff on Apr 11, 2010 20:54:11 GMT
Any referance pl? I have heard, it is not sin if do backbiting of non-muslims. Any ref. that it's not a sin to backbit non-muslims. Wheredid you heard that sister
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Post by nida on Apr 11, 2010 21:33:17 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuDo people really weigh that up before helping someone out? "Only if I get any reward will I help someone out", surely that way of thinking is flawed. Say you found a non-muslim with a pushchair struggling to open a door and you were walking past wearing islamic clothes basically being a "beacon for Islam" and you just walked straight past. You saw that person and that person saw you. Even if you don't get any reward would you not help that person? What impression would that put in the non-muslims eyes? We should be striving to set an example not use pitiful excuses to excuse our actions. Also with the back biting question, a quick google will give lots of references to say why it's not allowed even about a non-muslim (depending on what's said) but I don't know how many of them are sunni sources so I've not posted any. Backbiting is a character flaw and to try and justify it by saying they're non-muslims... well I can't quite understand it. Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhucalm down brother. you are absolutely right. but my question is for financial help. Like for example, in my surroundings, schools or other organisation (surgery, pharmacy) keep asking for donations to do this or that.......that is why , i asked this question If you know anything, that will be much appreciated
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Post by nida on Apr 11, 2010 21:35:02 GMT
Any referance pl? I have heard, it is not sin if do backbiting of non-muslims. Any ref. that it's not a sin to backbit non-muslims. Wheredid you heard that sister I heard it from the person of responsible religious personality.
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Post by Haarith on Apr 12, 2010 22:43:38 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuDo we get any reward for doing any help to non-muslims? I know that we are not allowed to give charity to them but if they ask for some help, then..... what to do.....
Is it sin for doing wrong things (back-biting, deceiving etc) to them? Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuIf Islam stands for peace how is backbiting and deceiving any chosen person -regardless of his faith- a part of the behaviour of the true Muslim? I think it's such a nonsense that backbiting against non-Muslims is allowed. I've never come across it nor have I heard any verse or hadith approving of it. Instead, I have read verses and ahadith telling about showing kindness to humanity as a whole; verses that tell us that any person doing good will see it. If non-Muslims get reward for doing good to each other, why wouldn't Muslims get reward for helping them? Wassalamu 'alayum
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Post by Sultani Sister on Apr 13, 2010 9:05:36 GMT
ASSALAMU 'ALYKUM WA REHMATULLAHI WA BARAKATUHU
ASSALATO WASALAM ALYKA YA RASOOL ALLAH (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam)
HAQ BAHU SACH BAHU
sister nida in islam there is some ruling about backbiting means some conditions for muslims and non muslims that includes in backbiting or not dear sister nida inshallah i will create a new thread for it so that all the things and condition about backbiting will become clear in some situation backbiting of non muslims are also prohibited but how its good that we will not even do backbiting for non muslims either as they are also humanbeings and as tolad by brother harith its the religion of peace and love. love for not only muslims but also for non muslims bacause they are also creatures of ALLAH Azzawajal yeah I find many links non sunni links in which they allowed backbiting of non muslims fully but when we come across some suuni scholars then its partially allowed depending on situations and conditions . as concerning about reward for helping non muslims these hadith will surely help The Noble Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) said: For the person who helps any needy person, Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta’ala) writes 73 types of virtues. With the blessings of one virtue, the affairs of this world and the next of that person will be set right by Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta’ala) and the rest (72) will be for raising the status of that person. (Musnad Abu Ya’ala, Hadith No. 4266) It has been narrated on the authority of Hadhrat Abdullah Bin ‘Amr (May Allah be well pleased with him) that the Noble Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) said: Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta’ala) is benevolent to that person who treats others with benevolence. You have mercy on those who live on this earth and the One of the skies will have mercy on you. (Jame’ Tirmidhi, Hadith No. 1924, Sunan Abu Dawood, Hadith No. 4941)non muslims always accept islam when they see the good behaviour of muslims towards non muslims . GOOD BEHAVIOUR (in urdu we say ikhlaq e husna ) is the basic tool .in early days of islam that was the thing that attracts the heart of non muslims towards islam and even now its the only thing that is attracting non muslims towards islam (deen e kamil ). in present situation when all world is try to declare muslims as terrorist western world is still progressing to become a part of muslim world . whats the thing that still attracting them towards islam ?? its the SUNNAH OF OUR BELOVED PROPHET Salla Allahu 'alayhi wa Sallam (ikhlaq e husna ) which is attracting people towards islam. i think the post is going too long inshort inshallah the good deeds will be rewarded whether its for muslim or non muslim . for backbiting i will make new thread WASSALAMU 'ALYKUM WA REHMATULLAHI WA BARAKATUHU
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Post by suhaybnz on Apr 13, 2010 10:32:23 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
As some of you know I am a revert to Islam so I would like to share my perspective on this thread.
I am no scholar but to me the answer is simple, Our Beloved Prophet Muhammad Mustafa Salla Allahu 'alayhi wa Sallam was sent as a mercy to all mankind, now even though we can never get close to his great personality we try to emulate him everyday by following his sunnah. Hence I feel we should do our best to be merciful to all mankind (not jsut Muslims).
Secondly you never know if a non muslim could become a muslim someday and acheive a higher status in AllahSubhanahu wa Ta'ala's eyes than ourselves so personally I feel we should be careful how we treat everyone.
Just my thoughts.
Fi Amanillah
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Post by Syed HAQ on Apr 14, 2010 7:42:49 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu,
Indeed there is a reward to help anyone on on earth, it is even said that even to have mercy on any kind of animal has its immense reward.
I am unable to recall however there is a very beautiful dream of one of the awliyah Allah whose name i am unable to recall, i.e in dream he will be asked for which deed he has been blessed with Jannah and he replies "once he was passing through a windy and snowy area and found a cat which was shivering and so to protect that cat he hide that cat in his coat which saved cat life"
Subhan'Allah! Subhan'Allah! Subhan'Allah!
These days it has become very common saying....he is a non-muslim, how can he eat along with us or be with us and many more......It is not about we are supporting a non-muslim but it is about how firm are we in the path of truth and how truthful we are with everyone.
There is a ahadith shareef which says:
It is narrated by Aby Hurayrah Radi Allahu anhu that Allah subhanawah ta'ala's Most Beloved Prophet Salla Allahu 'alayhi wa Sallam said:
Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala revealed to Hazrath Ibrahim alayhis 'salam that "You are my Khalil(friend), beautify your manners even with the disbelievers. You will(Thus) enter(paradise through) the entrances of the pious ones, for My word (of grace) has been decreed for the one who beautifies his manners that will give him shade under My throne, make him live in the courtyard of My Scaredness and draw him near to My company"
These days nafs has over powered us and making us always do foul cry which is call it as Iblisofobia.
May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala help us and make us live the life of Truthful, Allahummah Ameen!
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Post by hassaneforte on Apr 30, 2015 11:01:48 GMT
Non-Muslims are also Humans and Allah send his messengers to help non-Muslims become Muslims in the first place. So if you are helping any human beings in general your will be rewarded. However, keep in mind your help is not in violation with any core Islamic principles. Hassan ----------------------- www.hajjumradirect.com
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Post by thc on May 1, 2015 15:40:39 GMT
assalamualaykum,
we get reward for helping humans (insaaniyat) an example is the recent Nepal earthquake.
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