Asma Ul Husna and Jinn Disturbance

[observer]

Assalamu Alaikum to all,

I have been doing Zikr with Asma ul Husna (99 names) for a while and having problems with Jinn disturbances in sleep and sometimes in real life too.

I always say durood before and after the zikr and the i repeat the names less than 500x but I still have disturbances. I usually do the zikr after wajib prayers and will do for each of the 5 times salat using different asma husna.

If i feel their presence in the room while doing the zikr, I will stop but they will then disturb me in the sleep in the night.

What is the proper way of doing this type zikr without getting Jinns to suddenly present in the room and disturb the sleep? Any suggestion is appreciated.

Thank You

[Haarith]

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Brother maybe the other brothers and sisters of the forum can help you with this, but I would say you need to seek the help of a Shaykh who will guide you insha Allah.

Wassalamu 'alaykum

[observer]

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Thank You for your reply Brother.

Will check with an ustaz on this issue.

I am very puzzled by their appearance when doing zikr on certain asma's. I did not do the zikr yesterday and had no disturbances.

[Sag E Dargah E Jilani]

Asalamu Alaykum

If you have got ijazat from someone with authority then you should have no problem.

Please dont do the zikr until you get permission from a shaykh or alim.

Asma Ul Husna can be very jalaali (fierce, powerful) if you keep reading it.

My grandmother used to read it 100 times daily after isha prayers. She is even bayah but she never got the permission. She got severe headaches and used to bleed from nose and mouth. Hazrat Zinda Peer Ghamkolvi Alayhir Rahmah khalifa told her to stop reading it that many times.

She left it now.

[Saalik]

Dec 9, 2012 4:19:28 GMT observer said:

Assalamu Alaikum to all,

I have been doing Zikr with Asma ul Husna (99 names) for a while and having problems with Jinn disturbances in sleep and sometimes in real life too.

I always say durood before and after the zikr and the i repeat the names less than 500x but I still have disturbances. I usually do the zikr after wajib prayers and will do for each of the 5 times salat using different asma husna.

If i feel their presence in the room while doing the zikr, I will stop but they will then disturb me in the sleep in the night.

What is the proper way of doing this type zikr without getting Jinns to suddenly present in the room and disturb the sleep? Any suggestion is appreciated.

Thank You

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Brother, where did you find that (I mean in which book etc) and for what purpose you have been doing this zikr. Don't know whether you are mureed of any Shaykh but still if you are he may not give you permission for this zikr. The best solution is to stop it.

[observer]

Dec 11, 2012 21:41:14 GMT Saalik said:

Dec 9, 2012 4:19:28 GMT observer said:

Thank You

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Brother, where did you find that (I mean in which book etc) and for what purpose you have been doing this zikr. Don't know whether you are mureed of any Shaykh but still if you are he may not give you permission for this zikr. The best solution is to stop it.

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

I am doing this to strengthen my spiritual self. I select certain Asma's based on my need and add them to my zikr. It does work, I can feel the improvement but with some Asma's, it brings uninvited guests.

Currently I am not a mureed of any Shaykh but honestly I did not realize I need someone to supervise or oversee Asma Ul Husna zikr.

Actually this is the 2nd attempt at doing this type of zikr. At the first attempt, the zikr was in the thousands and the jinn attack was much worse. So many of them, evil and very aggressive. Had to stop to clean up the mess.

For the 2nd attempt, after checking religious books and internet sites, I started using Hisar and Durood to cover the Asma's and also keep the count to less than 500x. It does eliminate the evil ones but now I am getting what seems to be Muslims jinns. They also appear in dreams and trying to communicate with me but I am not really interested. Outside the Hisar lines, you can actually feel the presence of the evil jinns, taunting and trying to intimidate.

I just found an Ustaz who is knowledgeable in this matters and hope to meet him this week to get his advise.

For now I am still doing the zikr but limiting it to 33x for each Asma. So far no disturbances But I don't get the same satisfaction like I get when I do them in the hundreds.

[Bint e Attar]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

If someone whose mureed of a kaamil shaykh and does these type of wazaifs without their permission..will their shaykh still protect them from all this.. even if they didnt ask for permission..??

[Saalik]

Dec 9, 2012 4:19:28 GMT observer said:

Assalamu Alaikum to all,

I have been doing Zikr with Asma ul Husna (99 names) for a while and having problems with Jinn disturbances in sleep and sometimes in real life too.

I always say durood before and after the zikr and the i repeat the names less than 500x but I still have disturbances. I usually do the zikr after wajib prayers and will do for each of the 5 times salat using different asma husna.

If i feel their presence in the room while doing the zikr, I will stop but they will then disturb me in the sleep in the night.

What is the proper way of doing this type zikr without getting Jinns to suddenly present in the room and disturb the sleep? Any suggestion is appreciated.

Thank You

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

A little request Brother, as per the rules of the forum please mention your location in your profile.

Would you mind if I ask you a few questions regarding what you are doing and have mentioned so far.

[Saalik]

Dec 12, 2012 10:56:29 GMT Bint e Attar said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

If someone whose mureed of a kaamil shaykh and does these type of wazaifs without their permission..will their shaykh still protect them from all this.. even if they didnt ask for permission..??

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Alhamdulillah! a Kaamil Shaykh will not let his disciple down but if the mureed or mureeda engages in a wazifa which is not in the Shaykh's path and he/she gets stuck somewhere then the Shaykh will have to adopt another way to bring him/her back.........

[thc]

assalamualaykum,

what confuses me is how allahs names can cause a problem?

[Saalik]

Dec 12, 2012 21:50:37 GMT thc said:

assalamualaykum,

what confuses me is how allahs names can cause a problem?

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu


It's not the name of Allah Ta'ala that causes problem it's how we take His Name that causes problem. Sugar is sweet and inoffensive and when we take more than our body can metabolize it causes problem.

[observer]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu,

I asked the Ustaz yesterday and he said the disturbance is because of the large number of jinns hiding in my house. When we say the Asma zikr many times, they feel the pain and respond by attacking us.

He removed the jinns in the house and asked me to continue with the zikr because the Asma zikr is very good for the soul.

I hope the jinns won't disturb in my sleep again.

The trip to the jinn's world was fascinating, it reminds me of the Alice in Wonderland story we read as kids. A lot of weird stuff, stranger than your regular dreams. But it is filled with danger and the jinns seem to be at war with each other.

[observer]

Dec 12, 2012 12:05:39 GMT Saalik said:

Dec 9, 2012 4:19:28 GMT observer said:

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

A little request Brother, as per the rules of the forum please mention your location in your profile.

Ok, updated my profile

Would you mind if I ask you a few questions regarding what you are doing and have mentioned so far.

Ok

[thc]

assalamu alaykum,

How was he able to confirm for certain that it is jinn in the house?
Could he see them?

[observer]

Dec 14, 2012 21:01:03 GMT thc said:

assalamu alaykum,

How was he able to confirm for certain that it is jinn in the house?
Could he see them?

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Yes, he could see them. He said it is quite common for disturbances from in-house jinns because of Quran recitals and Zikr for extended period of time.

Probably the safest place to do extended Zikr session without a Shaykh's guidance is at the mosque because it is clean from bad jinns.

[Musafir]

Assalaam Alaikum
It may not be "house/resident" jinns,but muwakalaat and your own heightened sense of mind or heart,whereby they play with your imagination/perception.
Alot of these blessed asma ul husnaa are jalali and very powerful hence they have strong spiritual effects which cannot be absorbed by mere laymen (hence causing such affects).
The problem is never in the blessed names but rather in amil(person doing the wazifa/amal) him/herself.

[thc]

walaykum salaaam,

What is muwakalaat as there is no evidence in quran and haeeth for their existance?

Can we recite asma ul husna once a day or even twice a day i.e once in the morning and evening?

[observer]

Dec 16, 2012 9:24:51 GMT Musafir said:

Assalaam Alaikum
It may not be "house/resident" jinns,but muwakalaat and your own heightened sense of mind or heart,whereby they play with your imagination/perception.
Alot of these blessed asma ul husnaa are jalali and very powerful hence they have strong spiritual effects which cannot be absorbed by mere laymen (hence causing such affects).
The problem is never in the blessed names but rather in amil(person doing the wazifa/amal) him/herself.

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

I don't think it is the Muwakalaat because ever since the cleansing, the disturbances have stopped and I am able to do the zikr in the many hundreds without issues. Hope it stays that way when I get into the thousands.

From my understanding, Muwakalaat are very powerful jinns, probably the Kings and Princes of a particular jinn tribe, which we can invoke when we do certain amals. With God's permission, these Muwakalaat can fulfill many of our wishes and desires but I don't believe Muslims are allowed to ask them for any help. If they help us willingly without us asking them then that will be acceptable, I think.

[thc]

Assalamu alaykum,

Muwakalaat can be obtained ( i have heard) by reciting certain things.
However muwakalaat do not cause harm?

If you are able to recite in th 100s you may be able to get muwakalaat.

[Saalik]

Dec 14, 2012 8:29:11 GMT observer said:

Dec 12, 2012 12:05:39 GMT Saalik said:

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

A little request Brother, as per the rules of the forum please mention your location in your profile.

Ok, updated my profile

Would you mind if I ask you a few questions regarding what you are doing and have mentioned so far.

Ok

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Jazaak Allah Khayran

Dec 12, 2012 8:45:04 GMT observer said:

I am doing this to strengthen my spiritual self. I select certain Asma's based on my need and add them to my zikr. It does work, I can feel the improvement but with some Asma's, it brings uninvited guests.

From your understanding what's your spiritual self and what is your aim in strengthening it?

How do you know what you need for your zikr?

What makes you think it works when you do it the way you do?

Dec 12, 2012 8:45:04 GMT observer said:

Actually this is the 2nd attempt at doing this type of zikr. At the first attempt, the zikr was in the thousands and the jinn attack was much worse. So many of them, evil and very aggressive. Had to stop to clean up the mess.

Can you please explain in details how do you proceed to do the zikr.

What do you read in thousands; a specific Name of Allah Ta'ala or the 99 Names of Allah Ta'ala and how much time do take to read only one ism 1000 times?

Dec 12, 2012 8:45:04 GMT observer said:

For the 2nd attempt, after checking religious books and internet sites, I started using Hisar and Durood to cover the Asma's and also keep the count to less than 500x.

Any reason why before that you read more than 500. I mean is it stated in any book.

Dec 12, 2012 8:45:04 GMT observer said:

It does eliminate the evil ones but now I am getting what seems to be Muslims jinns. They also appear in dreams and trying to communicate with me but I am not really interested. Outside the Hisar lines, you can actually feel the presence of the evil jinns, taunting and trying to intimidate.

What makes you think they are Muslims jinns?

When you dream, do you know in which alam you are?

How do you feel the presence of the evil jinns outside the hisar?

Dec 12, 2012 8:45:04 GMT observer said:

For now I am still doing the zikr but limiting it to 33x for each Asma. So far no disturbances But I don't get the same satisfaction like I get when I do them in the hundreds.

Based on what you decided to limit the recitation to 33 for each ism and based on what you read them in the hundreds?

Can you describe the satisfaction you get?

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You said that you don't believe Muslims are allowed to ask the muwakkalaat for any help. Why do you believe so?

That's enough for today, please answer at your own convenience, no hurry etc. After you have answered I may ask some more questions in relation to your answers. If I see there's no need to ask, then I'll ask some questions related to your recent replies.