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Post by Fana fi Shaykh on Oct 30, 2007 12:56:24 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa SallamSubhanallah a beautiful post. Just a small question , I read many brother's saying Naare Haideri Yaa Ali. I just wanna know why we say it. JazakAllah Just as Rasool Allah Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam is Imam-ul-Anbiya (Leader of All Prophets), Hazrat Ali alayhis 'salam is Imam-ul-Auliya (Leader of All Auliya). We say "Ya Ali" to glorify Maqaam-e-Wilayat of Maula Ali alayhis 'salam . In addition, it distinguishes between a Momin and a Munafiq. hum ney tau bachpaney sey suna Ya Ali Madad Maa key dood hi sey piya Ya Ali Madad
Mohsin merey lahad mein woh manzar ajeeb tha jab meiney khud Ali sey kaha Ya Ali Madad.
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Post by heena02 on Oct 30, 2007 16:15:57 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
JazakAllah for the clarification.
Dear brother
Would it be alright to say, in that case, Hazrat Ali Radi Allahu anhu is also the Leader for Hazrat Abdul Qadir Jeelani Radi Allahu anhu or any other Wali Allah?
JazakAllah
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Post by sajjad dar ashrafi on Oct 30, 2007 21:04:46 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Subhanallah Shah Saab, well said
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Post by Fana fi Shaykh on Oct 31, 2007 10:25:07 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa SallamJazakAllah for the clarification. Dear brother Would it be alright to say, in that case, Hazrat Ali Radi Allahu anhu is also the Leader for Hazrat Abdul Qadir Jeelani Radi Allahu anhu or any other Wali Allah? JazakAllah
Absolutely.
Infact, Maula Ali alayhis 'salam is also the Leader of the Auliya amongst the Ummats of all the previous Prophets alayhimu 'salam.
Syedna Imam Ali alayhis 'salam = Supreme head
Syenda Ghous al Azam Radi Allahu anhu = Head
Sayidna Ali alayhis 'salam is known as Haider - Lion
Naaray Haideri is the call for Sayidna Ali alayhis 'salam since he is Asadullah.
Ya Ali alayhis 'salam is the reply for Naaray Haideri.
Sayidna Ali alayhis 'salam is also Mushkil Kusha, thus we say Ya Ali to call upon Sayidna Ali alayhis 'salam as a waseela (intermediatory or intercessor).
Some will say Ya Ali madath, this is too is similar.
Sayidna Ali alayhis 'salam is Imamul Auliya, Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani Radi Allahu anhu is a child from the family of Sayidna Ali alayhis 'salam . A drop of water as compared to the ocean.
hum ney tau bachpaney sey suna Ya Ali Madad Maa key dood hi sey piya Ya Ali Madad
KHUDA AUR MUSTAFA TAK PAHUCHNE KA YEH WASILA HAIN ALI GAUS-E-JALI HINDAL WALI SYED ABDUL RAHIM BAGDADI Radi Allahu anhuma
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Post by Fana fi Shaykh on Oct 31, 2007 10:44:05 GMT
Vision of Sayyiduna Ali Radi Allahu anhu An elderly writer of Karachi, Abdul Majid bin Abdul Malik told me this faith enlightening incident, `I was only 13 at that time. My step-mother became mentally ill and was chained and kept on the top floor of the house. We tried all the medicines but nothing helped her. On the advice given to us by someone, we left and took her to Bareilly Shareef whilst still chained. My respected mother consistently swore all the way and when she saw AlaHazrat , she shouted and said, `Who are you! And why have you come here?!` AlaHazrat , very tolerantly & gently told her, `I am here for your welfare.` My mother continued shouting and mockingly said, `I believe so! Will you do what ever I want?` He replied, `In`shaa-Allah .` My mother said `Show me Sayyiduna Ali .` After hearing this, His Excellency, AlaHazrat removed his blessed shawl from his shoulders, covered his blessed face, and then removed it. Now, instead of AlaHazrat , Sayyiduna Ali was in front of our eyes. My elderly mother lost herself in the glorious vision of Sayyiduna Ali . Sayyiduna Ali õ then placed the shawl over his blessed face and AlaHazrat appeared in front of us, smiling. Later, AlaHazrat gave some medicine in a glass bottle and said, `This is a two-dose medicine. Give only one dose to the patient. Do not give the second dose if you feel it is not necessary.` Alhamdu-Lillah , my mother became well with just one dose of medicine and while she lived, she never became mentally ill.` Brother if indeed they see the vision of my Aaqa my rehbar Maula-e-Kainat alayhis 'salam , then why they need any dose of medicine.
Just a Nigah of my Maula Ali alayhis 'salam is enough to cure her illness.
Kab Kisi Benawa Say Kehta Hoon Sub Ke Haajat Rawa Say Kehta Hoon Baat Shair-E-Khuda Say Kehta Hoon Door Ho Ja Nazar Say Ey Mushkil Warna Mushkil Kusha Say Kehta Hoon
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Post by sajjad dar ashrafi on Oct 31, 2007 11:36:17 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Subahnallah excellent poem and excellent answers by Shah Saab answering questions about the king of Aulias Hazrat ALI Radi Allahu anhu.
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Post by Abdul Momin on Nov 1, 2007 12:25:03 GMT
Brother Faizan. Why did they take her to Bareilly. Did they not read the Quran, there is no god but Allah, for ANYTHING and EVERYTHING only Allah should be called to help, no one else can benefit or affect or have any influence other than Allah. And Huzoor e Akdas S.A.W. said the same, that if you are in trouble seek none but Allah's refuge and continue praying till he bestows his mercy and removes all your troubles for sure he is the most merciful.
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Post by Abdul Momin on Nov 1, 2007 12:33:59 GMT
Dear Sir Fana fi Sheikh,
Pardon my ignorance, Though Hazrat Ali was a great personality and Allul Bait (family member of Huzoor and a great Imam) but we should call no one for madad (help) other than Allah, so saying 'Ya Ali Madad' is against the Quran, Islam and Prophet!
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Post by Fana fi Shaykh on Nov 1, 2007 14:30:46 GMT
Dear Sir Fana fi Sheikh, Pardon my ignorance, Though Hazrat Ali was a great personality and Allul Bait (family member of Huzoor and a great Imam) but we should call no one for madad (help) other than Allah, so saying 'Ya Ali Madad' is against the Quran, Islam and Prophet!
May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala pardon you for your ignorance.
The following verse of the Glorious Quran proves that one can also seek the assistance of the Awliya Allah: "Your helpers are Almighty Allah and His Rasool and those Muslims who perform Salaah and give alms and make Ruku" (Part 6, Ruku 6) This verse refers to the Helpers as "those Muslims" who are in reality the "Awliya".
In the Glorious Quran, it is proven that the Ambiya (alaihimus salaam) asked the servants of Allah Ta'ala, who are His creation, to assist them in their mission of Deen. To quote two examples:-
a. We read about Sayyiduna Isa (alaihis salaam) asking for help from his Disciples: "Who are those who will assist me in the path of Allah." His Disciples replied to him by saying, "From the servants, we will help in the Deen of Allah." (Part 3, Ruku 13)
b. Sayyiduna Moosa (alaihis salaam) also asked Allah Ta'ala for assistance and the name of his brother, Sayyiduna Haroon (alaihis salaam) was suggested to him.
If it was Shirk to ask for assistance from the creation, then the Ambiya (alaihimus salaam) would have never asked the people to assist them in their propogation of Deen.
Besides the Ambiya (alaihimus salaam) asking the servants of Allah Ta'ala to assist them in the Deen, Allah Ta'ala states in the Glorious Quran that Jibraeel (alaihis salaam) and the pious Muslims are also helpers: "Then, undoubtedly Allah is his helper, and Jibraeel and the righteous Believers and after that the Angels are his helpers." (Part 28)
The Glorious Quran says: "We gave clear signs to 'Isa son of Maryam and we assisted him with the Holy Spirit." (Part 3, Ruku 1) The Holy Spirit in this verse refers to Sayyiduna Jibraeel (alaihis salaam), who is an Angel and one of Allah Ta'ala's creation. If the help of the creation was considered to be Shirk, then Allah Ta'ala would have never allowed Jibraeel (alaihis salaam) to be the assistant of Sayyiduna Isa (alaihis salaam).
The beloved Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has stated, "There are certain of Allah's servants that have been set aside to fulfil the necessities of the people. People will call to them in their times of need. They are protected from the punishment of Almighty Allah". (Jame Saghir) This Hadith Shareef clearly proves that one may call the Awliya Allah for assistance.
Once, Sayyiduna Has'saan bin Thaabit (radi Allahu anhu) recited a Naath in the court of the beloved Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). The beloved Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) thereafter made a Du'a for him. This Du'a alone will show that we are from the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jama'at. The beautiful Du'a was that: "O Allah! Assist him (Sayyiduna Has'saan bin Thaabit) through Rooh Quds (Jibraeel Ameen)." (Bukhari Shareef)
Maula-e-Kainaat Imam Ali Radi Allahu anhu is Imamul Awliya.
Deed Haider Ki Ibadat Hai Yeh Farmaan E Nabi Hai Ali Rooh E Nabi Jism E Nabi Jaan E Nabi Gul-E-Tatheer Ali, Haq Ki Shamsheer Ali Peeron Ke Peer Ali Ali
hum ney tau bachpaney sey suna Ya Ali Madad Maa key dood hi sey piya Ya Ali Madad
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Post by sajjad dar ashrafi on Nov 1, 2007 16:33:35 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Subhanallah
Ya ALI Madad
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Post by sajjad dar ashrafi on Nov 1, 2007 16:36:07 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Mashallah Shah Saab
But one question I am sure that shaheed people do not die, is this true Shah Saab
If it is true was Maula ALI not a Shaheed
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Post by Fana fi Shaykh on Nov 2, 2007 10:53:13 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuMashallah Shah Saab But one question I am sure that shaheed people do not die, is this true Shah Saab If it is true was Maula ALI not a Shaheed Yes Maula-e-Kainat alayhis 'salam is Shaheed. They are alive in their blessed grave. Yaa Ali
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Post by Ashiq e Rasool on Nov 2, 2007 11:16:52 GMT
Dear Sir Fana fi Sheikh, Pardon my ignorance, Though Hazrat Ali was a great personality and Allul Bait (family member of Huzoor and a great Imam) but we should call no one for madad (help) other than Allah, so saying 'Ya Ali Madad' is against the Quran, Islam and Prophet! Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam Brother Abdul Momin, I am very surprised you ask this question, Maybe you are genuinely ignorant and have read and educated yourselve on the wrong books, but your view that you hold is of the deviants view, the wahabbi , Salafi, deobandi view. Umar Ibn Saeed-al-Futi has said: Know that the connection with the people of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala and to be close them is to be connected with Almighty Allah and standing in His presence. This is because they are the means of mercy of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala in this life and the hereafter. And from their hands descend blessings from the merciful Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala to all those who are deprived (Mahrumeen) and they are the mediators between us and Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala. And it were not for them, nothing of this world would exist. Our beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustuifa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam and the Awliya Allah are alive in their graves and perform Ibaadat in their graves as they were alive in the physical world. There are many instances when graves were dug up, the clothes and the bodies of the Awliya were in a state that they had just been buried. Imam Abu Naeem states in his book. “ Hayatul Awliya” that whilst burying Sayyedina Thaabit Nibhaani, one rock accidentally fell and they saw that Sayyedina Thaabit Nibhaani was making dua to Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala in the following way: “ O Allah, You have given certain of Your creation the permission to perform Salaah within the grave, please give me the same permission”. It was indeed beyond the Mercy of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala to refuse him”. Imam Trimidhi narrates in a Hadith –e-Qudsi: “ if you honour my Awliya, I will Honour you.”The 32nd Ayat of surah al-Ma’ida declares; “ Look for wasila to attain Him.” The wasila, or wasita, in this imperative Ayat karima is not bound by any condition but is used in a general sense. Ibaadat, Dhikr, Dua, (prayers) and the roohs of Awliya are included in this command. An attempt to put limits to this general order is nothing but a calumny against the Ayat al-karima. That the wasila is Rasoolullah Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam is made known in the Divine Command in surah Al Imran , (321 Ayat): “ If you love Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala, adapt yourselves to me! Allah loves those who adapt themselves to me”. ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
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Post by Abdul Momin on Nov 2, 2007 12:30:28 GMT
Dear brothers and sisters,
It may not be fair to quickly jump into calling me a deviant but if you want to call me anything call me a learner, since you guys are pretty elder and knowledgeable, but during the course of coming days I will present my views and you may correct my understanding if wrong, Allah knows the best.
I have a few questions for today: Please try and provide straight answers don’t post flowery words that look beautiful but fail to answer in black and white.
1. Who did Allah instruct the Prophet to call for in the hour of trouble – Allah or ALI or someone else? 2. Who did Prophet tell YOU to call for in the hour of trouble– Allah or ALI or someone else? 3. Who did Hazrat Ali tell you to call for in the hour of trouble- Allah or ALI or someone else? 4. Who is the best who can help you with removing any trouble – Allah or ALI or someone else?
Ya Allah is duniya o qayinaat ke banane wale, hum teri hi ibaadat karte hain aur tujhi se madad mangte hain. Be-shaq Tu sabse bada madadgaar aur rehamwala hai.
Ya Allah Madad. Ya Allah Madad.
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Post by Ashiq e Rasool on Nov 2, 2007 13:08:04 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam Brother you are not the first and wont be the last who have asked this question I did not call you a deviant but said the question you posed is of the deviants belief. Here is a link to the following thread which has already been debated by another who also was asking out of curiosity and ignorance originally but came out proudly as a deviant by the end. ashraf786.proboards15.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1186050651&page=2Please do ask more but also I suggest you read our replies and not ignore and pose your questions and then copy and paste answers from deviant scholars .
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Post by Abdul Momin on Nov 2, 2007 13:43:51 GMT
Sister, link takes me to the homepage doesnt take me to any post please help
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Post by Ashiq e Rasool on Nov 2, 2007 14:13:21 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam Peace and blessings upon you, O Beloved Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam of Almighty Allah, “ I Ask of you Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam of Allah , Your intercession.” The utterance of the above words are indeed permitted and no person other than those who are mis-led would argue with it. “For those who have faith, only a single word is proof enough.”However those who doubt, these proofs from A’la Hadrat Imam Raza Khan Rehmatullahi ’Alaih will eradicate all of them. The action of calling to Prophets alayhis 'salam and Saints for assistance can never be termed as Shirk. Only those will refuse to believe, whose sole aim and object is to eradicate from the hearts of the Muslims the love for Our beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam and the beloved Slaves of Almighty Allah. For the sake of reference I will now quote a Hadith proving it is permissible to utter the above mentioned words. This Hadith Shareef has been certified authentic by the following great Scholars of Islam, 1, Imam Nisai Radi Allahu anhu2 Imam Trimidhi Radi Allahu anhu3,Imam Ibn Maja Radi Allahu anhu4. imam Haakim Radi Allahu anhu5. Imam Baihaqi Radi Allahu anhu6,Imam Ibn Hazeema Radi Allahu anhu 7,Imam Abul Qasim Tabrani Radi Allahu anhu8.Imam Manzari Radi Allahu anhu9. Imam Muslim Radi Allahu anhu10,Imam Bukhari Radi Allahu anhu All the above mentioned Scholars of Ahadith narrate on the authority of Hadrat Uthman Bin Haneef Radi Allahu anhu that a Sahabhi who was blind by birth was once taught a special dua by our beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam , which he used to recite after every Salaah. The dua as follows: “ O Allah I ask from You and turn towards You through the wasila of Your Nabi Muhammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam, who is indeed a Prophet Of Mercy. O Muhammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam With your Wasila I turn towards Allah for my need so that it may be bestowed, O Allah accept the Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam intercession for me.”Imam Tibrani Radi Allahu anhu in his Muh’jam re4cords the following incident; “ A person in dire need once visited Ameer ul Mu’mineen Hadrat Uthman Ghani Radi Allahu anhu. The Caliph though due to other work did not pay heed. The person thereafter to Hadrat Uthman Bin Haneef Radi Allahu anhu and complained about the Matter, Hadrat Uthman Bin Haneef Radi Allahu anhu ordered the man to perform the Wudhu enter the Masjid and to offer 2 Rakats of Nafil Salaah, he was then top recite the following Dua. “ O Allah I beg of You and I seek Your Assistance, with the Wasila Of your Beloved Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam who is the Prophet Of Mercy. O Muhammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam I Turn to Allah with your Wasila that my needs be fulfilled. “The man was told to mention his need, after completion he was told to visit Hadrat Uthman Ghani Radi Allahu anhu. When he presented himself in front of the great Caliph, he was not only shown great respect, but his need and wish were also immediately granted. The Caliph, then addressing the man stated, “ In future if you require any favour, come immediately to me” After they both had left the court of the great caliph, the poor man (now no more poor) thanked Hadrat Uthman bin Haneef Radi Allahu anhu for mentioning him to the great caliph, the latter though clearly stated that he had not approached the Caliph,. He then stated; “ By Allah, I saw our beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam teaching the same dua to a blind man. Miraculously the blind man then approached us before we could even complete our conversation and he appeared as if had never been blind before". Imam Tabrani Radi Allahu anhu and Imam Munzari Radi Allahu anhu have both stated that this Hadith is Authentic. Imam Bukhari Radi Allahu anhu in his “ Kitaabul Adaabul Mufrad” Including Imam Ibnus Sinni Radi Allahu anhu and Imam Ibn Bashkool Radi Allahu anhu have recorded that Hadrat Abdullah Ibn Omar Radi Allahu anhu once suffered from cramp. Someone advised him to remember the person Who He loved Most, the great companion them proclaimed loudly; “ Ya Muhammad, Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam it is recorded that he was immediately relieved. Imam Nawawi Radi Allahu anhu in his commentary of the Sahih Muslim including his book Kitaabul Azkaar records that some individuals were sitting in the company of Hadrat Abdullah Ibn Abbas Radi Allahu anhu when suddenly one of them suffered from Cramps. The great Companion advised the man to remember the person Whom He loved the most The man Proclaimed; “Ya Muhammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam” , he was immediately cured There are in fact many Ashaab who narrate incidents of similar report. As for the link Try Now, it worked for me. ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
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Post by sajjad dar ashrafi on Nov 2, 2007 15:47:27 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuBrother Abdul I think you know a lot more than you are making out, please stop these sly comments and questions cause that is the typical misguided persons tactics, if you have anything to ask please do not hesitate to ask as we are not shy answering any questions, so fire away I am sure even the wahabbis believe a Shaheed is not dead but alive. So I have one question for you and that is can you please ask your site what it says about that because Hazrat ALI Radi Allahu anhu was a Shaheed so are they not alive
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Post by Abdul Momin on Nov 2, 2007 19:39:07 GMT
Sister AR, You are 100% RIGHT! and I believe EVERY WORD you wrote above, without question: “ O Allah I beg of You and I seek Your Assistance, with the Wasila Of your Beloved Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam who is the Prophet Of Mercy. O Muhammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam I Turn to Allah with your Wasila that my needs be fulfilled. “ (In fact I just recited this special dua for myself and felt great)
I love and respect your aqeeda that while caling Prophet for help you are actually seeking madad from Allah which is fine, no problems at all. (Allah has given the right of intercession to Prophet Muhammad because he is our messenger) But does Hazrat Ali also has the same right of intercession?
May the blessing of Allah Jalleshanahu be on our prophet and the ummah.
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Post by Ashiq e Rasool on Nov 3, 2007 12:39:21 GMT
Sister AR, You are 100% RIGHT! and I believe EVERY WORD you wrote above, without question: “ O Allah I beg of You and I seek Your Assistance, with the Wasila Of your Beloved Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam who is the Prophet Of Mercy. O Muhammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam I Turn to Allah with your Wasila that my needs be fulfilled. “ (In fact I just recited this special dua for myself and felt great) I love and respect your aqeeda that while caling Prophet for help you are actually seeking madad from Allah which is fine, no problems at all. (Allah has given the right of intercession to Prophet Muhammad because he is our messenger) But does Hazrat Ali also has the same right of intercession? May the blessing of Allah Jalleshanahu be on our prophet and the ummah. Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam In answer to your question , it has already been answerd in the prevoius post but here are some more facts. Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala has also given many of His beloved servant's power and authority to give help to the needy through taking wasila of His beloved servants, Therefore, to the believers of Ahl as-Sunnah it is perfectly in order to call out for help through Ghawth al A'zam Sayyadina Shaykh Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani Radi Allahu ta'ala anhu or Hadrat Khawaja Shaykh Moin ad-din Chisti Sanjri Ajmeri Radi Allahu anhu. The 26th Ayat of Surat Saad and the 165th Ayat of Surah al-An'am and many other ayats document our words. A Muslim who attaches himself to the heart of a perfect (kamil) Wali will attain Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala faid through the blessed heart of the Wali. A hadith Shareef quoted in Dailami and Kunz al-Daqaiq declares, " A scholar among his people is like a Prophet among his Ummah".The Beloved Prophet Sayyadinah Muhammad Mustapha Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam said, concerning asking from people: "If you absolutely must ask from people, then ask from the righteous ones" (in kunta la budda sa'ilan fas'al al-salihin). Narrated by Imam Ahmad Radi Allahu Anhu in the Musnad, Imam Abu Dawud and al-Nasa'i Radi Allahu Anhum in their Sunan. Al-Dhahabi Radi Allahu Anhu said: "Its chain is good" (isnaduhu salih). To think that those Pious Persons who have passed away, can act as mediators. We do not think but firmly believe because we have experienced concrete and real proof. By the way it depends how one interprets the word 'mediator'. In this low material world we are surrounded by mediators both living and non living which we use. To submit a request to let say a President or Prime Minister we can do it via post, telephone, a secretary or simply directly if we are closely related to them. Apart from being closely related whatever way one chooses it must obligatorily be via a mediator. If this so in this low material level how is it on the complex spiritual level. ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
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