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Post by Peace lover on Oct 25, 2004 11:33:57 GMT
The Holy Qur'an says:'... that to kill one person is like killing the entire mankind.... And to give life to one person is like giving life to the entire Mankind' (5:32) Abu Bakr Siddiq, the first Caliph of Islam, instructed the Muslim army as follows before it was despatched: 'dont touch a woman, dont touch a child, don't touch an old man, son't touch a sick man, and dont burn a garden, don't burn harvests, don't go on scorcher policy. We should all follow in the steps of our Prophet ,S.A.W. and his companions.
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Post by Allah ho gani on Oct 25, 2004 11:38:56 GMT
No Violence please, live peacefully.
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Post by star on Oct 25, 2004 13:41:14 GMT
if we resort to violence, then arnt we just as bad as the people we are talking about, as others have mentioned before islam is about peace, let it only be about that.
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Post by Rizwan london on Oct 25, 2004 14:42:29 GMT
"Either you are with us or with the terrorist"- BUSH after 9-11. Salaam bros. Lets not be apologetic to the Kufar about the actions of others thousands of miles away. Lets not be with 'us' the 'kufar'. I would also like to condemn terror. The terror the bros in philisthine, afghan, iraq, kashmir, china, indonesia, bosnia, etc (the list is endless) face on a daily bases. Forget the UN, US, RUS, UK. Do not plead with these people. It is a direct result of these people that people are blowing themselves up. Lets all do dua to ALLAH the allmighty for our bros and sis around the world. Salaam. F we are not with the kufr no are we appologetic, but wrong is wrong , if wrong is happening under the name of Islam it is our duty to condem it. ,you can not condone the killing of innocent live,s under any circumstances, nor can you justify suicide bombings in Islam.
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Post by mureed on Oct 26, 2004 16:37:35 GMT
Hazrat Shaykh-ul Islam and Gazi-ul Millat have always promoted peace, unity and love wherever in the world they have preached. A muslim should respect ALL life, human, plant, and animal - it is sacred.
Alllah subhanahu ta'ala knows best!
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Post by Abeda on Oct 26, 2004 18:42:10 GMT
I congratulate you all working on this site it is beautiful. This gives me an opportunity to express my anger and grief over all the violence and terrorism happening in this world. I have small children and the scences in Beslan made me sick. But human beings muslims and non muslims alike are being killed and tortured all over the world. Let us all pray to Almighty Allah to forgive our sins and to bring peace amongst his creations. Ameen.
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Post by SUNNI muslim sister on Oct 26, 2004 21:30:49 GMT
can u show or tell me that in any page in history where the disbeleivers or the enemies of ISLAM called for a confrontation and in response, he the (Mujahid) hid away or did not come on the battle field. show me any instance like this in the history of ISLAM? a lesson to be learnt for the youth of today Noble Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) Muhammad (SAW) went on the battle field himself, and Hazrat Imam Hussain gave his life for ISLAM!!!
if in reality Osama Bin Laden or the likes of captain hook had any love for ISLAM or the Muslims, and to save ISLAM from being disgraced and to save thousands of children from becoming orphans in Afghanistan and Iraq, they would have come out in the open and challenged the voice of disbelief against ISLAM, and sacrificed their own lives, but would not have allowed any disrespect or disgrace to ISLAM.
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Post by Kauser patel on Oct 27, 2004 19:12:17 GMT
Well said muslim sister, my thoughts exactly, so good to see an Islamic website that is spreading peace in its message, especially in this day and age!
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Post by Lukman patel on Oct 27, 2004 19:15:21 GMT
spread peace not war!
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Post by Bashir786 on Oct 28, 2004 12:22:02 GMT
As someone has said earlier terrorists exist in every country, and arent called Christian/Hindu or Jewish Terrorists so why brand these kidnappers with Islam ?
These criminals have bombed and beheaded just as many innocent Muslims - but no-one mourns for them ?
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Post by Sufi Saab on Oct 28, 2004 15:43:07 GMT
Salaam
"Lets spread peace", "No Violenece" and "Islam is a peaceful religion"- if this is not apologetic than what is!
It is good to condemn terrorism. However, where were you people when the terror against the Muslim of Philistine, Iraq and Afghan was taking place.
WHERE WAS THIS FORUM TO CONDEMN TERRORISM!!
Lets look at who we are trying to please with such forums, ourselves or the kufar.
The sister writes that the Prophet (PBUH) came out to the battle field to fight when the muslims were attacked and were threatan by the enemies of Islam. Lets take the lesson from this. What did the Prophet (PBUH) do?
Islam does not teach peace only through non-violence means. It has been beutifully shown by Nabi(PBUH) through the means of JIHAD.
May Allah give us wisdom and akal to act upon his commands and the Nabi(PBUH) Sunna.
Salaam.
[glow=red,2,300]Brother, I dont think you fully understand the concept of this thread. Have you read the opening post, and the other threads (not posts) in this particular forum ?
If you wish to debate any issue, I suggest you register and discuss them on our Current Affairs Board. Jazak-Allah (Admin) [/glow]
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Post by Rizwan patel on Oct 28, 2004 18:06:51 GMT
Salaam "Lets spread peace", "No Violenece" and "Islam is a peaceful religion"- if this is not apologetic than what is! It is good to condemn terrorism. However, where were you people when the terror against the Muslim of Philistine, Iraq and Afghan was taking place. WHERE WAS THIS FORUM TO CONDEMN TERRORISM!! Lets look at who we are trying to please with such forums, ourselves or the kufar. The sister writes that the Prophet (PBUH) came out to the battle field to fight when the muslims were attacked and were threatan by the enemies of Islam. Lets take the lesson from this. What did the Prophet (PBUH) do? Islam does not teach peace only through non-violence means. It has been beutifully shown by Nabi(PBUH) through the means of JIHAD. May Allah give us wisdom and akal to act upon his commands and the Nabi(PBUH) Sunna. Salaam. if you read the thread,s of this website there are lots of thread,s condemming what is happening in palastine Iraq Afghanistan Beslyn India.... We as mulims are not on Bush,s side as you so put it, we hate him just as much as you do probably more, If it was Jihad then Im sure all the muslim bro,s would be out there. and if you think this is Jihad why are you not out there fighting in the name of Islam. If you were a real sufi you would not have these thought,s I urge you to read Islam Terrirism the Sufi perspective. As for your question, were were we when the terror against all the muslim s was happening and still is,we are appalled by it all and we pray every day , but it dos,nt mean to say you go in guns blazing and start killing innocent people, innocent muslim,s , women and children, are you going to answer for that on the day of judgement! Also for all the misgiuded suicide bomber,s who by reading statement,s like your,s commit such act,s.I certainly am not.
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Post by mohd bhai on Oct 28, 2004 23:20:17 GMT
I dont want to call you by your name because you dont think like a Sufi. Please dont jump the gun. We are all condemning the killing and murder of innocent men wome and children. Is this allowed. Maybe in the religion you follow but not the one I follow...which is called Islam. Did you know how many bomb blast lately in Pakistan where innocent people have died. Our Blessed Prophet pbuh have emphasised on many occasions about hurting peoples feelings. Even when you are in the company of an orphan do not put your hand on your own childs head as it will hurt the feelings of the poor orphan child who will think of his parents. But these Terrorists are CREATING ORPHANS AND MURDERING CHILDREN they have no feelings even for MUSLIM CHILDREN AND FAMILIES... look at the facts. We all hate what is happening to our brothers and sisters by Bush and Blair and Bin and his Brutal Bunch.
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Post by Sunni Muslim sister on Oct 30, 2004 10:13:47 GMT
I find it vey hard to believe you are a sufi, and you misunderstood my message, sufi saab, My point being that if this was real Jihad, which it is not. Islam is the name of that character which the Noble Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) Hazarat Mohammed S.A.W. and his companions had spread. This was morality, this is morality through which Islam spread throughout the length and breadth of the earth. Islam did not spread with the sword, Islam spread through character. Hazarat Kwaja Moinudin Chisty Ajmeri R.A. who came as a representive of Islam and placed his mat in Ajmer without weapons, without any military or nuclear power, but his presonality, a decendent of Hazarat Fatima and Hazarat Ali,who presents the character of Mohammed S.A.W. with his connection with the Almighty Allah has resulted that History tell us more than 9 million people had entered the folds of Islam peacefully.
It is not jihad it is about oil and power...... The great Jihad, when the companions asked Yaa RasullulahS.A.W. what is the great Jihad so the leader of the universe replied to fight eith one own self (nafs) is Jihad-e-akbar. your sat there behind your computer calling for jihad, like the coward,s osama and captain hook, sat under your roof,s with your hot cups of tea, spare a thought for those innocent Muslim,s yes Muslims women and children getting killed even as we speak because of cowards llike you! first understand before you misquote!
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Post by Angry mulim bro on Oct 30, 2004 10:28:39 GMT
who does s saab think he is, we have no akaal, I urge you to Read the Quraan and the Hadith,s which if you were asufi you would have, disclose yourself you imposter! well said bros Mohd and rizwan bhai, and excellent post sister . Islam does not teach Violence, That is what the KUFR think, which the like,s of you have instilled in the minds of the KUFR, you have strayed from the real Islam, NOW LET US SPREAD THE REAL ISLAM PEACEFULLY!
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Post by aabassi on Oct 31, 2004 10:25:24 GMT
Islam commands love, mercy and peace. Terror, on the other hand, is the opposite of Islam; it is cruel, merciless and demands bloodshed and misery.
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Post by SufiSaab on Nov 1, 2004 1:19:32 GMT
[glow=red,2,300]This post has been moved to the 'Current Affairs' section. Admin[/glow]
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Post by Hanif on Nov 1, 2004 17:55:26 GMT
A very good thread,and excellent post, the real Islam, seems to be lost in this day and age, cretainly we condemm all killings by both the west and non muslim,s and happening as we speak. But the killings by so called muslims (the beheadings, suicide bombings......) are not done and never will be in the Name of Islam, and Sufi Saab, will never be done under the majestic Sufi banner! I agree with other guest, I think you are an imposter, and you are trying to stir things up. It wont work on this website we are not lost or misguided. We have our real spiritual sufi guides ,our Shiekh Hazarat Madni Mia, we dont need the likes of you!
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Post by sunnipath on Nov 2, 2004 6:42:09 GMT
Anyone who lives by the morality of religion revealed by God, know it's impossible to approve of violence of any kind, much less achieve a "higher" aim by murdering others. Those who resort to such methods are therefore pursuing the exact opposite of the moral values upheld by religion, carrying out their actions under the influence of materialist ideologies.
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Post by Peace on Nov 4, 2004 12:19:58 GMT
totally
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