Time to say Ali Ali Ali

[Fana fi Shaykh]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

JAZZALLAHU ANNA SAYYEDINA MUHAMMADAN MA HUWA AHLAHU

MANAM SAGHE DARBARE JILANI

But does Hazrat Ali also has the same right of intercession?

I hope you have no doubt about the shahadat of Maula Ali alayhis 'salam

The Beloved Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) stated: "The Ulema, the Hufaaz, and the Shuhada of my followers will indeed intercede on the Day of Judgment.

The following verse proves that one can seek a Wasila when approaching Allah Ta'ala. Allah Ta'ala states in the majestic Quran: "O ye who believe! Fear Allah and search for a Wasila (mediation) towards Him and strive in His path on that hope that you will gain refuge." (Part 6, Ruku 10)

"Your helpers are Almighty Allah and His Rasool and those Muslims who perform Salaah and give alms and make Ruku" (Part 6, Ruku 6)This verse refers to the Helpers as "those Muslims" who are in reality the "Awliya".

The belovedProphet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has stated, "There are certain of Allah's servants that have been set aside to fulfil the necessities of the people. People will call to them in their times of need. They are protected from the punishment of Almighty Allah". (Jame Saghir) This Hadith Shareef clearly proves that one may call the Awliya Allah for assistance.

Sayyiduna Allama ibn Juzri (alaihir rahmah) states, "If one is ever in any need then He should say, 'O servants of Allah, assist me! O servants of Allah, assist me! O servants of Allah, assist me'." (Tibraani)

Sayyiduna Imam Naudi (alaihir rahmah), the commentator of "Muslim Shareef", quotes an incident: "One of my superiors narrated an incident to me, 'My mule ran away and I had known the Ahadith and I immediately said, 'O servants of Allah, assist me!' Almighty Allah immediately stopped the mule (from running away)'." (Kitaabul Azkaar)


JazakAllahu khayrun

Yaa Ali

[Fana fi Shaykh]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

Hz Umar Radi Allahu anhu pray for rain thru the Wasila of hz Abbas Radi Allahu anhu

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Jazakallah

Yaa Umar

[Shiraz Ashrafi]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Subhanallah, yet another beautiful post brother, if it was up to me, everytime my heart did beat, i wish it would beat and say Ya Ali, and amazingly enough, everything you said was still a huge understatement of what and whom Hazrat Ali Radi Allahu anhu really are, none of us can really grasp this, all we can do is love him, for that is one of the biggest sunnah's of the most beloved Nabi Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

[sajjad dar ashrafi]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

so brother Abdul any more questions

[Ashiq e Rasool]

sajjad said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

so brother Abdul any more questions

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH
Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

Yes brother genuinly asking here, you did not reply to Shah Sahib or myself, do you still have doubts? If yes I would like to know what and why?
By the way one question from me and your answer will clear or confirm my doubts, do you know who Ghous Pak Is?

[Abdul Momin]

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Brothers and sister,

I dont have any more questions, and I cannot reply to Sheikh sahab's post as he can teach me, but I can't teach him anything because he is a buzurg, I am a kid in front of him, have limited knowledge of deen (I am saying this with No sarcasm but from the bottom of my heart and with 100% EEMAN).

And I believe I should not counter any ones belief unless I have FULL knowledge of truth or until I have experienced it myself and found wrong. Sheikh sahab may have experienced it, so fine, I cannot and SHOULD NOT counter or refute him, it will be bad on my part and could even be a gustakhi in front of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala if I refute something that Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala knows is right. And in fact every ayah has a literal, zaahir meaning and a hiddden, inner, baatin meaning, so ONLY Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala knows the best and he whom Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala bestows with the power of Gaib, baatin knows it. So I have been taught by my buzurgs that best conduct is that if you don't know or haven't experienced something yourself, don't fight, don't dispute it for you may become one of zalimoon and kuffar if that turns out to be true or right.

Like the rulers of the old times disputed with the saints or walis, it was bad. Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala is THE all knower and the Giver and He gives to whomsoever He wills. So if He has given something to a banda close to Him one should NOT refute, but accept it as Allah's Subhanahu wa Ta'ala's will.

I believe in this principle an hence believe that He exalts whom He wills and this theory explains the karishmaii taakat with which Huzoor e akdas Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam was blessed with and many more after him.
So I respect your aqeeda, and what you practice or believe in, as long as you believe that in a way you are asking from Allah and no matter whom you ask from, it is only Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala who provisions though their wasila or means!

And similarly you should respect my aqeeda which is that I have a HABBIT of only asking from Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala.

Which was the aqeeda hidayat and habbit of Huzoor e akdas Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
Though I agree that there are helpers appointed by Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala through the zariya of whom He bestows His mercy, He has the right of everything (including appointing helpers if He wills). I am not asking you to follow my HABBIT, and I am not telling you that what you are doing is wrong or having doubt in your method of asking from Wali's, hazrat Ali alayhis 'salam or Hazrat Ghous-ul-e-Azam alayhis 'salam. Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala knows the best what is right NOT me, and maybe none of us know what is 100% right.

I hope you understand and respect atleast my HABBIT owing to which I asked those 4 questions.

May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala guide us to the straight path, the path of whom He has bestowed His mercy upon, not the path of those who were led astray, and of those on whom His anger and wrath fell.
May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala bless us, our beloved Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam, and all Prophets who were sent before him, and the entire Ummah. Ameen.

[sunniboy]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

So I respect your aqeeda, and what you practice or believe in, as long as you believe that in a way you are asking from Allah and no matter whom you ask from, it is only Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala who provisions though their wasila or means!

Respecting aqeedah.

Brother, their is only one aquid and this is the Ahle Sunnah Sunnah wal Jammat, the siratul mustaqeen, your path of salvation. 85-90 percent of the worlds muslims are on haq. Its no good saying things like respect, mine and yours, and habit, etc. Learn the truth, ask questions, dont be blinded by those who whose only words of wisdom are kufr, shirk and bida, they will ultimately destroy your soul.

[sajjad dar ashrafi]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Abdul what do you mean we may not be 100% right, lets get something straight it is you and your bulls**t that is not right or confused or whatever it is you are playing at. We only follow what the king of the Universe Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam taught their Sahabbi Radi Allahu anhuma who taught the People after them and then the Aulia ALLAH who passed the same message on until now.

Ask your Mullah about the story of when Hazrat Adam alayhis 'salam were made, ALLAH TA ALLAH taught them the name of everything from leaves, stars and the names of every person till Qiyamat. Would a normal person know and remember all these thing, no they would not. Hazrat Adam alayhis 'salamwere one of the best Prophets but then the Mercy to mankind Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam are the king of the Prophet, imagine their Ilm e Ghaib.

As for asking ALLAH TA ALLAH, everything that happens, it only happens with ALLAH TA ALLAHs Ijazat. But you keep saying your Aqeeda please tell us what your Aqeeda is. You have the the nerve to say that your Aqeeda is that of the Noble Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam yet like a snake you hide your true mission (just like your aqeeda did when they were getting paid by the british government).

Respect your aqeeda I would rather burn your aqeeda to the ground

MAY ALLAH TA ALLAH NOT HAVE MERCY ON THE KABEES AND GUSTAKS OF OUR BEAUTIFUL PROPHET THE KING OF EVERYTHING AND THE ONE WITH ILM E GHIAB THE NOOR OF OUR LIFES THE REASON TO BREATH HAZRAT SAYYAD MOHAMMAD MUSTAFA Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam. MAY ALLAH TA ALLAHS ANGER AND WRATH FALL ON THOSE WHO TRY TO DO THE WORK OF IBLISS AND TRY TO TAKE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ASTRAY TO JAHANAM.

[sajjad dar ashrafi]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

MAY ALLAH TA ALLAHS LANAT BE ON THOSE WHO TRYTO (MAZALLAH)DISRESPECT AND (MAZALLAH) PUT OUR PROPHET Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa SallamsSTATUS DOWN

[madnibrother786]

Ameen summa Ameen brothers Sajjad, good post, Abdul Momin enlighten us (or should i say darken us) with ur aqeedah.

[Fana fi Shaykh]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

MANAM SAGHE SHER-E-YAZDANAM.

dont have any more questions, and I cannot reply to Sheikh sahab's post as he can teach me, but I can't teach him anything because he is a buzurg, I am a kid in front of him, have limited knowledge of deen (I am saying this with No sarcasm but from the bottom of my heart and with 100% EEMAN).

Beloved brother i am not any buzurg , I am younger than you. I am just 23 year's of age.

As you are from Delhi the stronghold of ruhaniyat as many big buzurg's are resting there , i pray to Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala may he show the right path thru Wasila of this buzurg.

beloved brother lets say "Yaa Ali Madad"

JazakAllahu khayrun

Naare Haideri - Yaa Ali

[Ashiq e Rasool]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

We can never respect an Aqidah that puts Our Beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam true status down, or insult the friends of Almighty Allah, i.e. the Ahle Bayt and the Sahbah e Kareem, the Awliya the Wali's Saints, etc or unite with the misguided, and that is what the Wahabhi Salafi deobandi, shia qiadinani are, Misguided.


May Almighty Allah The Most Magnificent and Most Merciful , through The Wasila of His Most Beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam guard us and protect us from all evil deviant sects and their evil beliefs. May we and our progeny until the Day of Qiyyamat stay on the right Path, the Path of Our beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam, the Path of Haq and truth and the light of His shining stars protect us and aid us in spreading the True Path the Sirat ul Mustaqeem.

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

[sajjad dar ashrafi]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Mashallah well said sister AR and they have made you a Buzurg at 23 Shah Saab Mashallah ;D.


Ya ALI Madad

[Abdul Momin]

sajjad said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Abdul what do you mean we may not be 100% right, lets get something straight it is you and your bulls**t that is not right or confused or whatever it is you are playing at. We only follow what the king of the Universe Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam taught their Sahabbi Radi Allahu anhuma who taught the People after them and then the Aulia ALLAH who passed the same message on until now.

Ask your Mullah about the story of when Hazrat Adam alayhis 'salam were made, ALLAH TA ALLAH taught them the name of everything from leaves, stars and the names of every person till Qiyamat. Would a normal person know and remember all these thing, no they would not. Hazrat Adam alayhis 'salamwere one of the best Prophets but then the Mercy to mankind Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam are the king of the Prophet, imagine their Ilm e Ghaib.

As for asking ALLAH TA ALLAH, everything that happens, it only happens with ALLAH TA ALLAHs Ijazat. But you keep saying your Aqeeda please tell us what your Aqeeda is. You have the the nerve to say that your Aqeeda is that of the Noble Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam yet like a snake you hide your true mission (just like your aqeeda did when they were getting paid by the british government).

Respect your aqeeda I would rather burn your aqeeda to the ground

MAY ALLAH TA ALLAH NOT HAVE MERCY ON THE KABEES AND GUSTAKS OF OUR BEAUTIFUL PROPHET THE KING OF EVERYTHING AND THE ONE WITH ILM E GHIAB THE NOOR OF OUR LIFES THE REASON TO BREATH HAZRAT SAYYAD MOHAMMAD MUSTAFA Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam. MAY ALLAH TA ALLAHS ANGER AND WRATH FALL ON THOSE WHO TRY TO DO THE WORK OF IBLISS AND TRY TO TAKE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ASTRAY TO JAHANAM.

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
Brother Sajjad!
I already mentioned the belief or aqeeda that I carry above first read then reply, I am quoting it again below:

"similarly you should respect my aqeeda which is that I have a HABBIT of only asking from Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala.

Which was the aqeeda hidayat and habbit of Huzoor e akdas Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam"

And you said you will burn my aqeeda down!!! lets see, try it. Ya Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala reham from the zaalimoon madad.

Yes I am NOT 100% right, and you are NOT 100% right, we are all humans, only Allah is 100% right everytime, always!! is this not correct?

[Abdul Momin]

sunniboy said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

So I respect your aqeeda, and what you practice or believe in, as long as you believe that in a way you are asking from Allah and no matter whom you ask from, it is only Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala who provisions though their wasila or means!

Respecting aqeedah.

Brother, their is only one aquid and this is the Ahle Sunnah Sunnah wal Jammat, the siratul mustaqeen, your path of salvation. 85-90 percent of the worlds muslims are on haq. Its no good saying things like respect, mine and yours, and habit, etc. Learn the truth, ask questions, dont be blinded by those who whose only words of wisdom are kufr, shirk and bida, they will ultimately destroy your soul.

I say that we have just ONE belief we are all muslims and I am not one of the dividers, I am against firqaparasti.

[Abdul Momin]

syedrehanqadri said:

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

MANAM SAGHE SHER-E-YAZDANAM.

dont have any more questions, and I cannot reply to Sheikh sahab's post as he can teach me, but I can't teach him anything because he is a buzurg, I am a kid in front of him, have limited knowledge of deen (I am saying this with No sarcasm but from the bottom of my heart and with 100% EEMAN).

Beloved brother i am not any buzurg , I am younger than you. I am just 23 year's of age.

As you are from Delhi the stronghold of ruhaniyat as many big buzurg's are resting there , i pray to Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala may he show the right path thru Wasila of this buzurg.

beloved brother lets say "Yaa Ali Madad"

JazakAllahu khayrun

Naare Haideri - Yaa Ali

Thanks, but you may be senior in ilm:)

[Abdul Momin]

naseer said:

Ameen summa Ameen brothers Sajjad, good post, Abdul Momin enlighten us (or should i say darken us) with ur aqeedah.

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Brother Naseer Ameen,
Please read my post again InshaAllah you will get the answer.

[Abdul Momin]

ashiqerasool said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

We can never respect an Aqidah that puts Our Beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam true status down

Sister AR, show me where I did or said this or put the status down?

[Abdul Momin]

sajjad said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

MAY ALLAH TA ALLAHS LANAT BE ON THOSE WHO TRYTO (MAZALLAH)DISRESPECT AND (MAZALLAH) PUT OUR PROPHET Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa SallamsSTATUS DOWN

Brother Sajjad, show me when did I do this?

[Abdul Momin]

abdulmomin said:

sajjad said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Abdul what do you mean we may not be 100% right, lets get something straight it is you and your bulls**t that is not right or confused or whatever it is you are playing at. We only follow what the king of the Universe Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam taught their Sahabbi Radi Allahu anhuma who taught the People after them and then the Aulia ALLAH who passed the same message on until now.

Ask your Mullah about the story of when Hazrat Adam alayhis 'salam were made, ALLAH TA ALLAH taught them the name of everything from leaves, stars and the names of every person till Qiyamat. Would a normal person know and remember all these thing, no they would not. Hazrat Adam alayhis 'salamwere one of the best Prophets but then the Mercy to mankind Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam are the king of the Prophet, imagine their Ilm e Ghaib.

As for asking ALLAH TA ALLAH, everything that happens, it only happens with ALLAH TA ALLAHs Ijazat. But you keep saying your Aqeeda please tell us what your Aqeeda is. You have the the nerve to say that your Aqeeda is that of the Noble Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam yet like a snake you hide your true mission (just like your aqeeda did when they were getting paid by the british government).

Respect your aqeeda I would rather burn your aqeeda to the ground

MAY ALLAH TA ALLAH NOT HAVE MERCY ON THE KABEES AND GUSTAKS OF OUR BEAUTIFUL PROPHET THE KING OF EVERYTHING AND THE ONE WITH ILM E GHIAB THE NOOR OF OUR LIFES THE REASON TO BREATH HAZRAT SAYYAD MOHAMMAD MUSTAFA Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam. MAY ALLAH TA ALLAHS ANGER AND WRATH FALL ON THOSE WHO TRY TO DO THE WORK OF IBLISS AND TRY TO TAKE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ASTRAY TO JAHANAM.

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
Brother Sajjad!
I already mentioned the belief or aqeeda that I carry above first read then reply, I am quoting it again below:

" which is that I have a HABBIT of only asking from Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala.

Which was the aqeeda, hidayat and habbit of Huzoor e akdas Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
And you say this is bulls**t??? Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala guide you.
And you said you will burn my aqeeda down!!! lets see, try it. Ya Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala reham from the zaalimoon madad.

Yes I am NOT 100% right, neither are you 100% right, we are all humans and bound to err, only Allah is 100% right everytime, always!! is this not correct?