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Post by madnibrother786 on Nov 6, 2007 8:12:13 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuAbdul what do you mean we may not be 100% right, lets get something straight it is you and your bulls**t that is not right or confused or whatever it is you are playing at. We only follow what the king of the Universe Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam taught their Sahabbi Radi Allahu anhuma who taught the People after them and then the Aulia ALLAH who passed the same message on until now. Ask your Mullah about the story of when Hazrat Adam alayhis 'salam were made, ALLAH TA ALLAH taught them the name of everything from leaves, stars and the names of every person till Qiyamat. Would a normal person know and remember all these thing, no they would not. Hazrat Adam alayhis 'salamwere one of the best Prophets but then the Mercy to mankind Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam are the king of the Prophet, imagine their Ilm e Ghaib. As for asking ALLAH TA ALLAH, everything that happens, it only happens with ALLAH TA ALLAHs Ijazat. But you keep saying your Aqeeda please tell us what your Aqeeda is. You have the the nerve to say that your Aqeeda is that of the Noble Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam yet like a snake you hide your true mission (just like your aqeeda did when they were getting paid by the british government). Respect your aqeeda I would rather burn your aqeeda to the ground MAY ALLAH TA ALLAH NOT HAVE MERCY ON THE KABEES AND GUSTAKS OF OUR BEAUTIFUL PROPHET THE KING OF EVERYTHING AND THE ONE WITH ILM E GHIAB THE NOOR OF OUR LIFES THE REASON TO BREATH HAZRAT SAYYAD MOHAMMAD MUSTAFA Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam. MAY ALLAH TA ALLAHS ANGER AND WRATH FALL ON THOSE WHO TRY TO DO THE WORK OF IBLISS AND TRY TO TAKE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ASTRAY TO JAHANAM. Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Bismillahir Rahmanir RaheemBrother Sajjad! I already mentioned the belief or aqeeda that I carry above first read then reply, I am quoting it again below: " which is that I have a HABBIT of only asking from Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala.
Which was the aqeeda, hidayat and habbit of Huzoor e akdas Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa SallamAnd you say this is bulls**t??? Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala guide you. And you said you will burn my aqeeda down!!! lets see, try it. Ya Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala reham from the zaalimoon madad. Yes I am NOT 100% right, neither are you 100% right, we are all humans and bound to err, only Allah is 100% right everytime, always!! is this not correct? U say allah paak is 100% correct, ur mullahs have even challenged that, and they claim allah can lie and can become impure and can do allsorts, astagfirullah, maazallah. Why do we say subhanallah - meaning allah is pure and has no imperfections.
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Post by madnibrother786 on Nov 6, 2007 8:19:02 GMT
which is that I have a HABBIT of only asking from Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala. Which was the aqeeda, hidayat and habbit of Huzoor e akdas Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam [/b] [/quote] So I have been taught by my buzurgs that best conduct is that if you don't know or haven't experienced something yourself, don't fight, don't dispute it for you may become one of zalimoon and kuffar if that turns out to be true or right. So if u only ask allah which u say in ur first quotes, then why do u go to ur bzurgs why dont u still ask allah then? U only need allah so leave YOUR 'buzurgs' out of it. And u only ask allah so tell ur mullahs to close their chanda and door knocking and then sit on the masala and ask from allah so they will get their money that way, instead off knocking doors cause u lot only ask from allah.
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Post by sajjad dar ashrafi on Nov 6, 2007 11:46:36 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
What Is the aqeeda of the sahabbi and tabieen and the aulia ALLAHs, who did they ask for help, it was through the Vaseela of Noor-e-MOHAMMAD Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam to ALLAH TA ALLAH
Like a snake you hide behind the internet like the shaitan you hide your aqeeda please tell us what your aqeeda is because you dont seem to know what you are yourself
You said only ALLAH TA ALLAH is the only one right, Beshak they are right then what about the Aulia ALLAH who ALLAH TA ALLAH protects and the Prophets who are massom from everything and what about the king of the universe Huzoor Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam are they not 100% right. This is the difference between us and you, all you lot try to do is put the status of Huzoor Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam down in every opertunity you get
My aqeeda is 100% right and it is you that said you were confused, make your mind up cause all of a sudden you have found your aqeeda. I think you are talking sxxt and are just trying to play games.
"Respect your aqeeda" you say, brother i hate your aqeeda and wish the biggest lanat on you.
You ask sister AR to show where you put the status of huzoor Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam down but you tell us where you put it, it should be put as high as possible which you forget to do all the time.
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Post by sajjad dar ashrafi on Nov 6, 2007 11:48:30 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Like your mullas have spread this disease for the lst 100+ yrs Inshallah our Buzurgs are slowly getting rid of it with some stong medication
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Post by sajjad dar ashrafi on Nov 6, 2007 11:49:50 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
How many buzurgs names do you know and do you know what they did for Islam and what their aqeeda was and who they called for help
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Post by Ashiq e Rasool on Nov 6, 2007 11:50:26 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam We can never respect an Aqidah that puts Our Beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam true status down Sister AR, show me where I did or said this or put the status down? Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam I did not say you said this I said the sects who have the same views as you,"i.e. Ask only from Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala," ie, the Wahabi the deobandi the salafi sects, we can never unite with them or belief in their aqeedah as their leaders have written volumes of books where they have slandered and blasphemed Our Beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhamamd Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam yet they continue to folow and use these books and praise those leaders.. Click on this link brother and you will know what I am talking about. ashraf786.proboards15.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1192443416 ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
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Post by Saalik on Nov 6, 2007 19:01:11 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala guide us to the straight path, the path of whom He has bestowed His mercy upon, not the path of those who were led astray, and of those on whom His anger and wrath fell. 1. What is the straight path? 2. Who are those upon Whom Allah Subhaanahu Wa Ta'alaa has bestowed His Mercy? What do you understand by Mercy and how many do you know upon Whom Mercy has been bestowed? 3. Who are those who were led astray, and on whom the anger and wrath of Allah Subhaanahu Wa Ta'alaa fell?
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Post by sajjad dar ashrafi on Nov 6, 2007 19:47:24 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
One question you say we are muslims and by this I think you mean all the sects, ok even though I will never ever agree with that I will see it from your so called point of view. You will say sunnis, shias, deoband, salafi etc are all muslim then what about qadianis and the nation of islam are they muslims, if you say yes i will not bother you again but if you say no then please explain why they are not muslims.
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Post by madnibrother786 on Nov 6, 2007 22:47:08 GMT
Mashallah well done people, keeping the flag of sunnism high! Inshallah
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Post by Abdul Momin on Nov 7, 2007 0:41:33 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
Brothers and sister AR,
Please see my views and don't attribute the views of any molavi's, Deobandis, qadianis etc. on me. I totally abhorr their views. Can't you see I agree to your views? and as sister clarified that I never undermined the status of Huzoor Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam I cannot, NOBODY can ever do that. (May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala have mercy on Huzoor e Akram Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam)
Nowhere in the forum will you find a single line that I have said in gustaakhi of Huzoor Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
Will you still blame me?
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Post by sajjad dar ashrafi on Nov 7, 2007 2:40:25 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
You say you agree with our views but I have always seen you do the opposite
1.Please tell us your views 2.You said you are on your aqeeda and i am on mine. Please explain that to me because you say you agree with our views but then say about having a different aqeeda from us. 3.You say we are all muslims and like I asked before what is your opinion on groups like qadiani and nation of islam. Are they muslims please explain your answer
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Post by Abdul Momin on Nov 8, 2007 5:58:46 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
I don't have a different Aqeeda, and I don't belong to any sect, I am a Momin (Believer) following the path of Allah Jalleshanahu as shown by our beloved Huzoor e Akram Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam, If you follow Quran and Sunnah, I support you. If you follow something else, I differ.
If ANYONE follows the Quran and Sunnah I will support them, the moment they deviate and attribute something that is against the Quran and Sunnah I will reject them and distance myself.
Its our foremost duty to NOT be among the DIVIDERS, but be among the UNITERS.
Prophet Mohammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam never preached us to make groups, or sects, he was against firqaparasti (to form subgroups or sects) or to label people. He ( Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) was sent as a mercy to mankind and he said 'Its our duty to love the believers who believe in Allah, fear none but Him, worship none but Him, give zakaat, are righteous, just and honest, and believe in the Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam, all Prophets that were sent before, the day of judgement, angels, and the unseen' If any one on this earth does the above, we should and must love them, however if somebody goes against the teachings of Quran and Sunnah we must DISTANCE ourselves from him/her. (Not to hate or kill them, because let us not be the one to judge them let Allah Jalleshanahu decide and judge them, and Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala is the BEST judge) May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala bless us and have mercy on us. Ameen
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Post by Saalik on Nov 8, 2007 7:09:57 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Bismillahir Rahmanir RaheemI don't have a different Aqeeda, and I don't belong to any sect, I am a Momin (Believer) following the path of Allah Jalleshanahu as shown by our beloved Huzoor e Akram Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam, If you follow Quran and Sunnah, I support you. If you follow something else, I differ. If ANYONE follows the Quran and Sunnah I will support them, the moment they deviate and attribute something that is against the Quran and Sunnah I will reject them and distance myself. Its our foremost duty to NOT be among the DIVIDERS, but be among the UNITERS. Prophet Mohammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam never preached us to make groups, or sects, he was against firqaparasti (to form subgroups or sects) or to label people. He ( Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) was sent as a mercy to mankind and he said 'Its our duty to love the believers who believe in Allah, fear none but Him, worship none but Him, give zakaat, are righteous, just and honest, and believe in the Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam, all Prophets that were sent before, the day of judgement, angels, and the unseen' If any one on this earth does the above, we should and must love them, however if somebody goes against the teachings of Quran and Sunnah we must DISTANCE ourselves from him/her. (Not to hate or kill them, because let us not be the one to judge them let Allah Jalleshanahu decide and judge them, and Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala is the BEST judge) May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala bless us and have mercy on us. Ameen Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem One who does not belong to any FIRQA does not form part of Ummat - e - Muhammadi Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam. Is it not enough to understand this when our Beloved Master Sayyidinah Muhammad Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam has clearly said that His Ummah will be divided into 73 firqas. Any one claiming not to belong to any firqa is voluntarily rejecting the fact of being Ummat - e - Muhammad Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam. With such claim can anyone be a momeen??? Is there is any compromise on this??? Don't forget to reply to this: Who are those upon Whom Allah Subhaanahu Wa Ta'alaa has bestowed His Mercy?
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Post by Ashiq e Rasool on Nov 8, 2007 9:57:41 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem One who does not belong to any FIRQA does not form part of Ummat - e - Muhammadi Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam. Is it not enough to understand this when our Beloved Master Sayyidinah Muhammad Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam has clearly said that His Ummah will be divided into 73 firqas. Any one claiming not to belong to any firqa is voluntarily rejecting the fact of being Ummat - e - Muhammad Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam. With such claim can anyone be a momeen??? Is there is any compromise on this??? Don't forget to reply to this: Who are those upon Whom Allah Subhaanahu Wa Ta'alaa has bestowed His Mercy? Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam SubhanAllah Masha Allah well said brother Saalik an excellent post and reply.
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Post by Saalik on Nov 8, 2007 10:40:02 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
“Hazrat Musa Alayhis Salaam said: O Allah! Assign me a Vizier from my family, (that is) my brother Haroon. Add to my strength through him, and make him share my task: that we may celebrate thy praise........ (Allah) said: “We granted your requests, O Musa” (Surah Ta Ha-20, Aayah 29-36)
Shaikh Jalaaluddin Suyyuti Radi Allahu Anhu in his commentary of the above verse cites the following tradition: “When this verse descended, The Beloved Prophet (Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam) was on a mountain, straight after it’s descent, The Beloved Prophet (Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam) prayed to Allah, ‘Oh Allah! Through my Brother Ali, ease the burden on my back’, and Allah accepted this prayer” Tafsir Durre Manthur, by Shaikh Jalaaluddin Suyyuti Radi Allahu Anhu, Vol 4 p 295
"Imam Shafi`i Radi Allahu Anhu made tawassul through the Family (Ahl al-Bayt) of Sayyadinah Rasoolullah Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam when He said: Al al-nabi dhari`ati wa hum ilayhi wasilati arju bihim u`ta ghadan bi yadi al-yamini sahifati- The Family of the Prophet Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam are my means and my intermediary to Him. Through them I hope to be given my record with the right hand tomorrow”.
“Then learnt Adam from his Lord words of inspiration and his Lord turned towards him; for He is Oft-Returning Most Merciful ” (Surah Baqarah-2, Aayat 37)
“Hazrat Ali Alayhis Salaam narrates that He asked Sayyidinah Rasoolullah Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam ‘Which words did Allah Subhaanahu Wa Ta'laa taught Hazrat Adam Alayhis Salaam. Sayyidinah Rasoolullah Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam replied ‘O Allah I seek repentance through Muhammad (Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam) and His Family”. “Ibn al Najjar Radi Allahu Anhu narrates that Hazrat Ibn Abbas Radi Allahu Anhu asked Sayyidinah Rasoolullah Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam in connection with the above matter, and Sayyidinah Rasoolullah Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam stated, Hazrat Adam Alayhis Salaam said “Through Muhammad Sallal Laahu Alaihe Wa Sallam), ‘Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Husayn (Alayhimus Salaam), please accept my repentance. Allah Subhaanahu Wa Ta'alaa then accepted His repentance”. Tafseer Durre Manthur Volume 1 pages 60-61 by Shaikh Jalaaluddin Suyyuti Radi Allahu Anhu.
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Post by Saalik on Nov 8, 2007 20:40:57 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem Prophet Mohammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam never preached us to make groups, or sects, he was against firqaparasti (to form subgroups or sects) or to label people. We would have never known or talk about firqas if our Beloved Master Sayyidinah Muhammad Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam had not made us aware of it and also advised us to keep away from them (deviants) and to stick to the main group of His community, i.e., the Sawad e Aazam which is of course the Ahle Sunnat Wal Jama'at. The Blessed and True words of our Beloved Master Sayyidinah Muhammad Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam, we don't doubt , try to tarnish, deny or modify - these are done by deviants only. So according to you when one speaks of firqas and advise ones fellow brothers and sisters to keep away from other deviated firqas, one becomes a firqaparasti. By attributing parastish to what our Beloved Master Sayyidinah Muhammad Sallal Laahu Ta'alaa Alaihe Wa Sallam has advised us, you have indirectly commited a gustakh. Prophet Mohammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam never preached us to make groups, or sects. Learn this as from today: We, the Ahle Sunnat wal Jama'at does not make groups, or sects - it's those who deviate that form groups or sects and try with all the financial means at their disposal to deviate others to their groups or sects. As for us we were the major group that already existed and will Alhamdulillah remain major till the last day. Its our foremost duty to NOT be among the DIVIDERS, but be among the UNITERS. because let us not be the one to judge them. Now you are deviating, what's all this? To unite with whom. Also if one cannot judge how will one be able to differentiate between a believer and non-believer. Can we unite with non-believers in matters of deen? To be able to differentiate one has to judge and conclude otherwise between filth and cleanliness............you know what I mean. If a non-believer gifts you with a good piece of roasted chicken, will you just take it, say thank you and consumes it thinking that if ever the meat is haram, it's not you who will be at fault but him because he has cheated you. Will you say that you cannot doubt or judge the intention of the nice non-believer who gave you the roasted chicken?
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Post by Abdul Momin on Nov 9, 2007 1:48:08 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
My brother in Islam Saalik,
Humbly request you to read the last post once again, InshaAllah all your questions and allegations will be answered.
Our religion does not allow us to follow sects. I would never link myself to one or the other.
1. Muslims Should be United
It is a fact that Muslims today, are divided amongst themselves. The tragedy is that such divisions are not endorsed by Islam at all. Islam believes in fostering unity amongst its followers. The Quran says: "And hold fast, All together, by the rope Which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves;" [Al-Qur’an 3:103] Which is the rope of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala that is being referred to in this verse? It is the Glorious Qur’an. The Glorious Qur’an is the rope of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala which all Muslims should hold fast together. There is double emphasis in this verse. Besides saying ‘hold fast all together’ it also says, ‘be not divided’.Qur’an further says, "Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger" [Al-Qur’an 4:59] Our beloved Huzoor e Akram Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam never ordered us to divide ourselves in firqas or sects. All the Muslim should follow the Quran and authentic Ahadith and be not divided among themselves.
2. It is Prohibited to make sects and divisions in Islam
The Qur’an says: "As for those who divide Their religion and break up Into sects, thou hast No part in them in the least: Their affair is with Allah: He will in the end Tell them the truth Of all that they did." [Al-Qur’an 6:159] In this verse Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala says that one should disassociate oneself from those who divide their religion and break it up into sects.
But when one asks a Muslim, "who are you?", the common answer is either ‘I am a Sunni, or ‘I am a Shia’. Some call themselves Hanafi, or Shafi or Maliki or Humbali. Some say ‘I am a Deobandi’, while some others say ‘I am a Barelvi’. 3. Our beloved Prophet Subhanahu wa Ta'ala was a Muslim
One may ask such Muslims, "Who was our beloved prophet (pbuh)? Was he a Hanafi or a Shafi, or a Humbali or a Maliki?" No! He was a Muslim, like all the other prophets and messengers of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala before him. It is mentioned in chapter 3 verse 52 of Al-Qur’an that Jesus alayhis 'salam was a Muslim.
Further, in chapter 3 verse 67, Al-Qur’an says that Hazrat Ibrahim ( alayhis 'salam) was not a Jew or a Christian but was a Muslim.
4. Qur’an says call yourselves Muslim
If anyone poses a Muslim the question who are you, he should say "I am a MUSLIM, not a Hanafi or a Shafi". Surah Fussilat chapter 41 verse 33 says "Who is better in speech Than one who calls (men) To Allah, works righteousness, And says, ‘I am of those Who bow in Islam (Muslim)?’ " [Al-Qur’an 41:33]
The Qur’an says "Say I am of those who bow in Islam". In other words, say, "I am a Muslim". The Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam dictated letters to non-Muslim kings and rulers inviting them to accept Islam. In these letters he mentioned the verse of the Qur’an from Surah Ali Imran chapter 3 verse 64: Say ye: "Bear witness That we (at least) Are Muslims (bowing To Allah’s Will)." [Al-Qur’an 3:64]
5. Respect all the Great Scholars of Islam
We must respect all the great scholars of Islam, including the four Imaams, Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi, Imam Humbal and Imam Malik (may Allah be pleased with them all). They were great scholars and may Allah reward them for their research and hardwork. One can have no objection if someone agrees with the views and research of Imam Abu Hanifa or Imam Shafi, etc. But when posed a question, ‘who are you?’, the reply should only be ‘I am a Muslim’. Some may argue by quoting the hadith of our beloved Prophet from Sunan Abu Dawood Hadith No. 4579. In this hadith the prophet ( Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) is reported to have said, "My community will be split up into seventy-three sects." This hadith reports that the prophet predicted the emergence of seventy-three sects. He did not say that Muslims should be active in dividing themselves into sects. The Glorious Qur’an commands us not to create sects. Those who follow the teachings of the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith, and do not create sects are the people who are on the true path.
May Allah Jalleshanahu's blessings and mercy be on us. Ameen
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Post by faizaneraza on Nov 9, 2007 4:28:09 GMT
nice sharing brother
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Post by Ashiq e Rasool on Nov 9, 2007 12:05:20 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam Brother Abdul Momin, and impressive post but you are telling the wrong people here. WE have not created divisions or sects. The Ahl-e Sunnah is the path of the Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam time, the One true religion that they taught us the Ummah, it is the other Shaytan deviant sects who have formed after and still to this day do so, they will be different sects and divisions and Our beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam has warned us against them and against uniting with them as previous Hadiths posted have proofed that. We can not and will not unite with misguided sects. Its very easy to say, and shout Unity, but you have to look at the bigger picture and go deeper into what is the practice and preaching of the deviant's and their beliefs, and misguidance preached and followed that goes against the teachings of the one True path can lead to kufr and we cannot and never ever will unite, no matter how you dress it up . Our beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam prophesised that many individuals and religious sects will cause dissension and mischief until the day of judgement. Aap Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam made particular references to the wahhabi movement.. Hadrat Abdullah ibn Umar Radi Allahu anhu has narrated that our Beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam said; " O Allah! Bless our Syria and our Yemen" Some people said: " Bless our Najd as well" Our Beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam said again; " O Allah! Bless our Syria and Yemen"Some people again said; " Our Najd as well" At that our beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam said, " In that Place will be earthquakes and Fitnah, and from that place will arise the horn of Satan"(Sahih Bukhari) Hadrat Hudhayfah Radi Allahu anhu narrates the following Hadith " Our Beloved Prophet Sayyedina Muhammad Mustufa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam said: " There will be some people who will lead others to (principles) other than my Sunnah and will seek guidance. You will find some of their deeds worthy and others to be evil"I said;" Will there be any evil after the good?" Aap Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam replied " Yes there will be some people who will invite others to the gates of hell, and whosoever accepts their invitation to hell they will throw him in it."I said: " O Almighty Allah’s beloved Messenger Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam describe to us the sign of those people"? Aap Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam replied; They will belong to us and speak our language". Then I asked, " What do you order me to do if I were to see such a thing in my lifetime" Aap Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam replied, " Stick to the Jama'at of Muslims and their ruler."I asked;" If there is a neither a Jama’at of Muslims and their ruler” what shall i do I asked; Aap Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam replied; " Keep away from all those different sects, even if you have to bite the root of the tree, till death overtakes you whilst you are still in that state,"(Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari) ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
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Post by Ashiq e Rasool on Nov 9, 2007 12:12:41 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam Here is a beautiful reply by resected brother Faizan who anserwed a similar question to a member who was thinking along the same lines as you. If any one whether directly or indirectly shows insolence and abuse towards Allah's Most Beloved Habeeb Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam then they should be hated even as a person. We must bear in mind even at the time of our Noble Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam there were the open enemies of Islam 'Dushman' they were enemies of The Message of Islam the teachings of Islam and the beliefs of Islam but not enemies of the Prophet himself as a person. This group of enemies fought our Messenger because they were enemies of the Prophets Mission. However many of them who were in the battlefield as the enemies in time also became Companions Hadrat Khalid ibn Waleed, Hadrat Abu Sufyaan Ridwanullahi ta'ala ajmaeen etc... The kufaar of today may be our enemies but that is due to the fact that we are self professing Muslims and they neither accept nor agree with our beliefs. We do not hate these people. Just like we do not hate a fellow Muslim who drinks, gambles etc but we rather hate his/her actions. However during the time of the Noble Messenger Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam there was a far worser type of an enemy as well. We discribe these people as 'gustakh' these people are enemies of our Beloved Prophets 'zaat' self. They direct insults and abuse towards The blessed Prophet as a person, we know them as Abu Jahl, Abu Lahab, Walid Ibn Mughira etc Allah never gave any members of this group the chance to bring Iman. They are the worse type of living beings on earth, they are viler than vile. Why? Because they spend their lives insulting what is most dear to Allah The Almighty. If these 'gustakhs' show anomosity towards our beloved Rasool Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam are we going to say 'oh i dont hate you as a person but only what you believe'? Certainly not! We have to be very clear about this and be sure with ourselves. Remember we do not say that the entire crowd that pray behind these Molvis or that all of the Molvis are gustakh but any one who has read some of the dispicable writings of there leaders/Imams which the Ulema of the Ahle Sunnah have classed as Kufr (since it leads to Insulting our Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam ) and for him/her to continue to show respect for those Imams is also classed as a 'gustakh'. Even though such a person may be seen at times praying salah, or holding some prayer beads but we should not be fooled by this. Satan comes in many forms and will try to weaken and then take our Iman. . Sometimes Islam is attacked by the enemies of Islam in the form of G.Bush or the Zionist regime and sometimes OUR IMAN IS ATTACKED when we hear the likes of a deobandi Molvi write that our Noble Messenger was taught urdu at Darul uloom Deoband, for whom Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala declares ''Oh My Beloved, I taught you what you did not know...'' Al Qur'an. Finally before I get too carried away, during Hajj we are told to show our anger and vengence by pelting a pillar of stone where the Devil once stood attempting to decieve Hadrat Sayyidena Ibrahim Alayhis Salato wa tasleem....the same Satan who declined to bow to Sayyidena Adam ala Nabiyena alayhis Salaam which resulted him becoming the Devil. So the teacher of Angels becomes the Devil of Mankind for disrespecting one of the Prophets. The place where he onces stood will be pelted till Qiyamah for deceiving one of the Prophets..... hence we can deduce that The Devil knows the only way to take a muslims Iman is to make him/her insult our Prophet who is not only one of the Prophets but the Imam of All the Prophets. May Allah for give my shortcomings and give us all strenght in Iman that at least we feel the hatred in our hearts for those who disrespect the greatest and most supreme creation sent as The Mercy for all Mankind. So what should be our reaction ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
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