Maula Ali

[gulam-e-sahib]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

In Sawaiq al Muhriqa page 177, Imam of Ahl ul Sunnah Ibn Hajr al-Makki al-Haythami records this event that took place during Hadhrath Umar's khilafath:

"Once two land owners approached Umar with a dispute. Umar called 'Ali and asked that he resolve the matter. Imam 'Ali resolved the dispute, and one of the individuals said, 'This man ['Ali] is going to decide between us?' Upon hearing this Hadhrath Umar grabbed the individual by the collar and said 'Don't you know who this individual is? He is the Maula of me, you and all Momin's, and whoever does NOT take him to be his Maula is not a momin (believer)"

* Nisa-i, Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Tirmidhi, Tibrani, Tabari, and Hakim have mentioned the following words also:

"Man kuntu mawlahu fa Aliyyun mawlahu
Allahumma wali man walahu wa adi man adahu "

[king786]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

SubhaanAllah


ALI MULA ALI MULA ALI DAM ALI DAM DAM - ALLAHU AKBAR

[Muhammad Adam]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Subhan-Allah. Ya Ali, Ya Ali Ya Ali.

[Sister Nomee]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

SubhanAllah a great post on Maula Ali Radi Allahu anhu.

JazakAllah khyarun for sharing

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

[siraj]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

One question if someone can possibly answer it for me please

Why do you say Maula Ali Radi Allahu anhu ? or in other words can someone clarify the word for me or its meaning?

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

[Fana fi Shaykh]

Sept 28, 2008 17:35:36 GMT siraj said:

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

One question if someone can possibly answer it for me please

Why do you say Maula Ali Radi Allahu anhu ? or in other words can someone clarify the word for me or its meaning?

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Maula mean's Spiritual guide, Teacher or Master.

Here are two beautiful short clip's on what word Maula mean's when we use it for Sayyedina Maula Ali alayhis 'salam.

Dr Tahirul Qadiri Sahib :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TMniqO-Zrw&feature=related

Allama Ilyas Attar Qadiri Sahib :

uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ii40Fp9k1Zg

JazakAllahu khayrun

Aye Shahe Shahane Jahan wAllah Maulana Ali
Aye Noor e Chashm Ashiqaan wAllah Maulana Ali

Hamd Ast guftan Naam tu Aye Noor Farukh Noor Tu
Khurshid o Mah hindroye Tu WAllah Maulana Ali

[siraj]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Jazakallahu-khairan brother for clarifying , Secondly one more question if possible please answer

Whats the maning of master ?
Does it means the leader or something else? ;please clarify it for me

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

[siraj]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Brother very good examples clarifyed clearly (Alhamdulillah)

Just also want to know the exact meaning of master if possible ?


Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

[sajjad dar ashrafi]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu


ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

Subhanallah what a beautiful post

Mashallah Shah Saab I was just watching that video yesterday

[Fana fi Shaykh]

Sept 28, 2008 23:14:22 GMT siraj said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Jazakallahu-khairan brother for clarifying , Secondly one more question if possible please answer

Whats the maning of master ?
Does it means the leader or something else? ;please clarify it for me

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

The answer is with you.

How you see the word Maula for Sayyedul Mursaleen Sayyedina Muhammad Mustafa Ahmed-e-Mujtaba Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam.

Maula is mostly translated as Spiritual Guide or Spiritual teacher or Spiritual Master.

Ali Imame Manasto Manam Ghulame Ali
Hazaar jaane Girami Fidaa-e-Naam-e-Ali

[Fana fi Shaykh]

Sept 28, 2008 23:18:55 GMT siraj said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Brother very good examples clarifyed clearly (Alhamdulillah)

Just also want to know the exact meaning of master if possible ?


Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Do you consider Sayyedul Mursaleen Sayyedina Muhammad Mustafa Ahmed-e-Mujtaba Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam as your Maula.

If Yes.

Then in which sense you consider him your Maula consider Ali Radi Allahu anhu as your your Maula in the same way.

Har ke dar aafaaq gardad bu-turaab;
baaz gardaanad ze maghrib aaftaab

[Fana fi Shaykh]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

If Maula can be use with Wali-Allah then why not Imam-ul-Awliya Imam Ali ibne Abi-talib alayhis 'salam. Especially when Sarwar-e-Konain Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam give him the honour of being known as Maula.

Couplet by maulana Rume.

Molvi Rume Hargiz na Shud Maula-e-Ruum
ta ghulamaane shams tabriz na shud.

Molvi Rume couldn't be transformed into the Spiritual Guide (Mawla) of Ruum
Unless he became the lowly slave of Hazrath Shams-e-Tabriz.

Couplet's from Qadiri-Razvi Shijra Muqaddas.

Kar ata Ahmad Raza-e-Ahmad mursal Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam mujhay

Mere maula hazrat'e Ahmad Raza kay waasitay.

You can check the meaning of Master from english dictionary.

JazakAllahu khayrun

Ali Bagair koi bu-Turab ho na saka
Yeh wo sawaal hain jiska Jawaab ho na saka
bahut se Huffaz o Qari hue magar koi
Ali sa Aalim o Ummul kitaab ho na saka

[siraj]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Brother shah sahib you have got me wrong , wen you explain the first it was clear enough answer for me (inshallah) and there was no doubt (inshallah)

as i have read the word master many times before thats why i wanted to know the meaning of the word & i asked you because you are knowledgable ....

Ali maula Ali maula , ali dam dam

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

[siraj]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu


But there's another thing i consider hazrat ali ( Radi Allahu anhu) to be my maula in sense of spiritual guide, Teacher & as Leader (Chief)
And thats what i consider the meaning of Maula to be for using for Hazrat Ali ( Radi Allahu anhu )

But brother if someone uses this word in thinking of wrong sense of way wouldnt he be doing shirk then?
(Like e.g Creating partners with allah )

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

[Shiraz Ashrafi]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

When you say Moula, you automatically think of Maula Ali alayhis 'salam, the same way you say Maulana, you think of Maulana Rumi Radi Allahu anhu

[sajjad dar ashrafi]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

Brother Abdullah you are a confused person and how can you say that word, which fool could even think of something like that

[fatma]

Oct 4, 2008 18:51:31 GMT sajjad dar ashrafi said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

Brother Abdullah you are a confused person and how can you say that word, which fool could even think of something like that

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

if brother abdullah is confused we should be helping him not ignoring his questions. the whole point of this site is to help those who have doubts to see straight and we can't do that until we discuss with them and answer their questions.

so please a little more understanding and let the brother ask his questions as you wil get the sawab for answering them.

also no name calling please.

[siraj]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Brother Sajjad let me give an example
e.g have you seen people who prostrate to the great aulia's grave's (naouzobillah) which is basically i believe is due to ignorance in other words lack of knowledge (true right)
If this possible then dont you think that someone can take the wrong meaning of the word if he doesnt have the true knowledge about the meaning of the word. Thats why i said that question .

Jazakallahu-khairan everyone.

[Shiraz Ashrafi]

Oct 5, 2008 9:45:23 GMT siraj said:

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Brother Sajjad let me give an example
e.g have you seen people who prostrate to the great aulia's grave's (naouzobillah) which is basically i believe is due to ignorance in other words lack of knowledge (true right)
If this possible then dont you think that someone can take the wrong meaning of the word if he doesnt have the true knowledge about the meaning of the word. Thats why i said that question .

Jazakallahu-khairan everyone.

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Brother who does sajdah to the graves of the great awliya?

[siraj]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Brother i have seen this happening by myself . I dont know who they are infact & i dont want to say that people(muslims) commit shirk but you can search for the answer by yourself

Far as i know this is happening in pk, if there;s any misconception on anything i said please ask me so maybe i get the chance to clarify what i am trying to say

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu