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Post by Haarith on Dec 20, 2009 15:04:33 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu 'alayhi wa SallamAssalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuAs you probably know, a referendum was held in Switzerland to ban the construction of new (masjid) minarets. The referendum was initiated by the nationalist Swiss People's Party (SVP) and in the end 57,5 procent of the Swiss voted in favour of the ban. Beneath are a view extracs from the following article: Swiss voters back right-wing minaret ban- "In no case does this impinge on religious freedom," Oskar Freysinger, a prominent SVP politician, said."This has nothing to do with the practice of religion."
- After the vote the government pledged to respect the outcome. "Muslims in Switzerland are able to practise their religion alone or in community with others and live according to their beliefs just as before," a statement said.
- Hans-Rudolf Merz, the Swiss President, had sought to reassure the nation before the vote. "Muslims should be able to practise their religion, and have access to minarets in Switzerland too, but the call of the muezzin will not sound here," he said.
- The SVP used the issue as an assault on what it depicts as the inroads of political Islam in Switzerland, including Sharia practices and oppression of women. "We just want to stop further Islamisation in Switzerland," Walter Wobmann, head of a committee backing the initiative, said after the vote.
- The SVP rejects the Government's view that a ban would breach the law on freedom of religion. "This is not against Islam. The minaret is a symbol of political power," Mr Schluer said.
[/size][/i][/b][/li][/ul] What do you think SWISS Muslims should do? Please vote and discuss. Wassalamu 'alaykum
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Post by Bint e Attar on Dec 20, 2009 16:18:55 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu I chose "Claim referendum to ban other religious buildings"
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Post by Sister Nomee on Dec 20, 2009 21:39:35 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu I chose "Claim referendum to ban other religious buildings" Same here. The Swiss Muslims are not able to practice their religion freely this is unjust and discriminating on the swiss government's behalf May Muslims throughout the globe practice their deen with ease and do not face such dilemmas ameen. Wasalaam
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Post by fatma on Dec 20, 2009 22:17:45 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
answered same as above.
although i do think that if they are not breaking the old minarets just banning the construction of new ones (rememeber they are not banning the construction of new mosques) then i don't think one should make too much of a fuss.
there are many mosques in the UK which do not have minarets and nowhere in the UK can you hear the adhan in the streets from a minaret so if a ban was persued in the Uk it would not make much of a difference.
the real thing is they are taking away the freedom of expression which the west believe so much in, it's like saying to the christians that they will no longer be able to have a church spire or the statue of jesus in their buildings. or to the hindus no statues at all and the sikhs that they can't have their flag outside and the jews can't have the star of david on the fascia of their building.
if they are not targetting the other religions then it is unfair to just pick one out of the blue simply because of a select few terrorists why brand the whole nation as one?
hitler was the killer not the whole of germany!!!
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Post by Haarith on Dec 21, 2009 10:20:07 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
So what would you 3 sisters do if the referendum for other relgious buidlings was held and the outcome was: they can stay?
Wassalamu 'alaykum
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Post by Haarith on Dec 21, 2009 10:25:02 GMT
- The SVP rejects the Government's view that a ban would breach the law on freedom of religion. "This is not against Islam. The minaret is a symbol of political power," Mr Schluer said.
[/size][/i][/b][/li][/ul] [/quote] Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuYeah right, symbol of political power. What about women walking half naked in the country, what kind of symbol is that. I dread other countries will step into the footsteps of Switzerland. What if tomorrow they hold a referendum about hijab and beard. Wassalamu 'alaykum
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Post by sarfaraz on Dec 21, 2009 11:44:13 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
I voted other as I'm not really too sure on this.
On the one hand they're not banning Mosques so that option for banning other religious buildings doesn't match the ban on minarets. What it "could" lead to is debatable and not really part of the question.
Also if it was done by public vote and the muslims didn't vote or were outvoted then the result is of "the people". So if "the people" don't want them then what can you do? It's their country.
But on the other hand this is targetting only mosques. They haven't targetted the outwardly appearance of other religious buildings.
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Post by Sister Nomee on Dec 21, 2009 14:47:27 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuSo what would you 3 sisters do if the referendum for other relgious buidlings was held and the outcome was: they can stay? Wassalamu 'alaykum Maybe hold demostrations and rallies and take it further to court. Come one brothers what would you all do?? Wasalaam
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Post by Haarith on Dec 22, 2009 0:43:37 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuI voted other as I'm not really too sure on this. On the one hand they're not banning Mosques so that option for banning other religious buildings doesn't match the ban on minarets. What it "could" lead to is debatable and not really part of the question. Also if it was done by public vote and the muslims didn't vote or were outvoted then the result is of "the people". So if "the people" don't want them then what can you do? It's their country. But on the other hand this is targetting only mosques. They haven't targetted the outwardly appearance of other religious buildings. Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuBut brother, is (the second half) of your first sentence not a clear response to your last? Wassalamu 'alaykum
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Post by Haarith on Dec 22, 2009 0:45:47 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuSo what would you 3 sisters do if the referendum for other relgious buidlings was held and the outcome was: they can stay? Wassalamu 'alaykum Maybe hold demostrations and rallies and take it further to court. Come one brothers what would you all do?? Wasalaam Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuI must say I find your method ambiguous, because clearly you're against the ban of minarets -in your words: the Swiss Muslims are not able to practice their religion freely this is unjust and discriminating on the swiss government's behalf- but first you want to have a referendum for other religious buildings and only after that -thus depending on the outcome- you'll take further actions. That's like saying to someone who robs you: "I won't hand you over to the police if you have robbed my neighbour also." (No offence of course...) Wassalamu 'alaykum
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Post by sarfaraz on Dec 22, 2009 9:28:59 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuBut brother, is (the second half) of your first sentence not a clear response to your last? Wassalamu 'alaykum It was more of a clarifiaction of why I chose the other option instead of any of the other options.
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Post by Haarith on Dec 22, 2009 9:45:52 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuBut brother, is (the second half) of your first sentence not a clear response to your last? Wassalamu 'alaykum It was more of a clarifiaction of why I chose the other option instead of any of the other options. Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuOke brother. Wassalamu 'alaykum
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Post by Sanam1 on Dec 22, 2009 10:53:10 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuI voted other as i dont know how many swiss muslims there are ? and what they say about this
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Post by Haarith on Dec 24, 2009 16:42:37 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
What can the Swiss Muslims do? They can hold demonstrations, boycut products, etc but I'm afraid that won't do much to the Swiss government. They might have a very slight chance if they consult the European Tribunal.
In the end I think they should respect the outcome -because it is was the population who voted-, and not accept the view of the government on minarets. The Muslims should keep doing dawah and inform people that minarets aren't a symbol of what has been portrayed by the government.
So: respect the outcome, complain about the wrong/false portrayal/perception of minarets... and drag Switzerland to the European court for that...
Wassalamu 'alaykum
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Post by Muqadas_Ch. on Jan 3, 2010 17:56:22 GMT
Boycot food products, etc from Switzerland
That would be the best way,to hurt them. The muslim countries should boycott their business relation ships with Switzerland,which will never happen, because our leaders of muslim countries are only money makers. Why they would think about it, as we do?
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Post by sagaiMadani on Jan 5, 2010 1:31:54 GMT
I mentioned this to someone I know who recently visited Swizerland. He told me that they have a law which subscribes that no building [whether religious or non-religious] can be taller than x limit. If that is true then we cant really argue with that.
sister Fatima wrote.,
that's not quite true anymore. Ask the muslim women in places like France.
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Post by Bint e Attar on Feb 6, 2010 10:06:51 GMT
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Post by Haarith on Feb 7, 2010 16:33:19 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuSubhanAllah! Reminds me of the story of Hadrat Umar Radi Allahu anhu. Wassalamu 'alaykum
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Post by strawberrypoptart48 on Oct 21, 2015 20:54:14 GMT
wow well that's unfair ugh i always thought the swiss weren't that bad O.o
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Post by fififi on Jul 25, 2016 4:53:07 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmaanir Raheem !!! Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuhu Wa magfiratuhu !!!
LET US PRAY TO BE BETTER FOR ALL OF US ALL OVER THE WORLD !!!
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuhu aw magfiratuhu !!!
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