Avoid du'a e Ganjul 'Arsh !

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Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

This du'a is actually read by a lot of people, but it should actually be avoided because it mixes Attributes and Names of Allaah with other attributes that we didn't get through the Noble Prophet Salla Allahu 'alayhi wa aalihi wa Sallam!

Read this:

`Alaykum as-Salam,

The strict and cautious view is to avoid “Du`a Gandjul Arsh” because it is a text mixing some of the known Beautiful Names of Allah and Attributes together with several non-transmitted, unheard of names and attributes such as:

- al-wafi (the loyal)
- al-mu`jiz (the one who incapacitates)
- al-khalis (the unalloyed)
- al-mukhlis (the sincere)
- al-safi (the pure)
- dhul-hayba (the dignified)
- al-fadil (the meritorious)

As you know it is not lawful for anyone to name Allah Most High by other than what He named Himself, or to describe Him by other than what He related of Himself, or what the Prophet said, or the Ummah agreed upon:

<<The meaning of the Names and Attributes being ‘ordained and non-inferable’ (tawqifiyya) is that it is not permitted for anyone to assert an Attribute or a Name for Allah except if there is an explicit text (nass) from Allah Most High or His Prophet (upon him blessings and peace) allowing the use of such a Name or Attribute. . . . Even if the Name or Attribute point to pure perfection, Ahl al-Sunnah hold that it is not permitted to apply either to Allah without a specific permission. The Mu`tazila considered that it is permitted to freely assert the meaning of which describes Allah, as long as it does not suggest any imperfection.>> (Muhammad Muhyi al-Din `Abd al-Hamid, al-Nizam al-farid bi-tahqiq Jawharat al-tawhid p. 126)

In keeping with this rule Imam al-Bayhaqi (Allah have mercy on him) entitled the first chapter of his Encyclopedia of the Divine Names (al-Asma’ wal-Sifat) thus: “Book of the Names of Allah the Most Exalted and His Attributes to which the Book of Allah Most High points as established, or to which the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah (upon him blessings and peace) points, or to which the Consensus of the early Muslims of this Community points, before dissension befell and innovation appeared.”

What is even worse, the online Arabic text of this “Du`a Gandjul Arsh” contains mistakes, some of them horrible such as the misspelling “mu`jaz” which means incapacitated! To say this is blasphemy (ilhad) and it is best to avoid even risking such a terrible mistake. ( )

Some of its syntax shows it was written by a non-Arab speaker. It appears to be known mostly in the Indo-Pakistani continent. Its name appears to be originally Du`a Kanzul Arsh which means the Du`a of the Treasure of the Throne. However, when we say “Kanz al-`Arsh” in the Sunnah we refer to what the Prophet (upon him blessings and peace) himself called by that distinguished name in his hadiths, namely:
(i) the Fatiha;
(ii) Ayat al-Kursi;
(iii) the closing verses of Surat al-Baqara;
(iv) Surat al-Kawthar;
(v) the phrase la hawla wa-la quwwata illa billah.

Hajj Gibril Haddad
(From eshaykh.com/ibadat-worship/dua-gandjul-arsh/)

[Bint e Attar]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu


this is the 1st time I heard something negative about Dua Gunj ul Arsh... hmm If I was u I wouldnt blindly follow Hajj Gibril Haddad's fatwa.. bc I've heard that hez not 100% sunni.. maybe someone knows more about this..??

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Here is something that I found on faizaneattar.net

mufti.faizaneattar.net/Answer.php?Q=11097

@1:08 (Its given to us by our buzurgs and that u can find it in many Punj Surahs..)

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Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Hajj Gibril Haddad is 100% Sunni! His 'Aqeeda is our 'Aqeeda.

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And yes, the du'a is very widespread, but as respected Hajj Gibril Haddad (Damat Barkatuhumul Aliya) explained, this du'a is attributing names to Allaah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala that we didn't receive through the hadith nor through the Qur'an!

After this observation he showed that the stance of the Ahl al-Sunnah is that that is not permitted.

And yes, I also have this du'a in a book at home, but the respected scholar has showed that there is something wrong with it, and that shouldn't be ignored.

May Allaah Azzawajal reward Gibril Haddad with infinite rewards for defending the Blessed Sunnah!
Fi Amanillah

[fariana]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem !!!
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu wa magfiratuhu !!!

Can you translate in english, please ??

Now I am confused !!!

Jazakum Allah khairan !!!

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu !!!

[Saalik]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu


Religious scholars have related that Allah (Azzawajal) has three thousand names. One thousand are only known by Angels, 1,000 known only by Prophets, 300 are in the Torah (Old Testament), 300 are in Zabur (Psalms of David), 300 are in the New Testament, and 99 are in the Qur'an. This makes 2,999 Names. One Name which has been hidden by Allah is called Ism Allah al-azam: The Greatest Name of Allah (Azzawajal).

www.islam786.org/99namesofallah.htm


In some books (in which it is written and recommended) it is mentioned that it was transmitted by Hazrat Jibrail Alayhis Salaam to our Beloved Master Sayyidinah Muhammad Sallal Laahu Ta'al Alayhi wa Sallam but there's no reference. While searching for a reference I fall upon this observation made by an individual:

In one list of the 99 Names of Allah Azzawajal is mentioned Al-Mu'tiy - The Bestower, The Giver and does not have Al-Ahad - The One

Another list did not have Al-Razzaaq -The Sustainer, The Provider but did have Al-Maajid The Noble, The One who is Majid.


I haven't thoroughly checked both list yet to confirm this.

[fariana]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem !!!
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu wa magfiratuhu !!!

Jazakumu Allahkhairan !!!

That meens , that the dua is not a harm for us .

Alhamdulillah !!!

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu !!!

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Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Yes, in tafsir al-Jalalayn it says that Allaah Azzawajal has 99 Asma ul Husna, but as time passed scholars got to know more and said that there are 3000 like in what you quoted.

And then some Sufiyya said that Allaah has an infinite amount of Asma ul Husna, because Allaah ta'alaa is limitless.

But the names we ("normal" people) know are only from the hadith and the Qur'an. It is very sad that the du'a contains non-transmitted names .

Al Razzaaq and Al Maajid are both in the Qur'an, this wikipedia page shows in what ayat's the Asma ul Husna can be found: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Islam.

And then there are three reasons why I could think that this du'a is not authentic (keep in mind that I know nothing really, may Allaah ta'alaa forgive me):
1 There is no reference for the hadith.
2 It attributes names to Allaah Azzawajal only seen in this du'a.
3 The du'a has some grammar problems! Hajj Gibril Haddad (Damat Barkatuhumul Aliya) said: "Some of its syntax shows it was written by a non-Arab speaker."
And all the dua's we got from the Most Beautiful Creature of Allaah ta'alaa are in the most perfect form, because it was recited by Sayyidina Muhammad Salla Allahu 'alayhi wa aalihi wa Sallam


As Gibril Haddad (may Allaah ta'alaa reward him excessively!) said, it is best to avoid this du'a.
Fi Amanillah

[Saalik]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu


What if the person who originally wrote the dua is a Kaamil Wali of Allah Subhaanahu wa Ta'ala to whom were inspired the names.


al Qawwiyyil Wafiyyi means The Truthful (Faithful to His Word).

al Ghaniyyil Mu'jizi means The All Sufficient, The Miracle.

al-Khalisil Mukhlisi means The uncontaminated, One who (Spiritually) Purifies others.

(Adam) Safiyyullah means the One (Adam Alayhis Salaam) who was Chosen by Allah (Azzawajal).

al Faadhilish Shakur means The Erudite, The Oft Thanked.

[Saalik]

May 21, 2011 13:45:53 GMT @qasiem said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

What is even worse, the online Arabic text of this “Du`a Gandjul Arsh” contains mistakes, some of them horrible such as the misspelling “mu`jaz” which means incapacitated! To say this is blasphemy (ilhad) and it is best to avoid even risking such a terrible mistake. ( )

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Brother, even if it should have been al Mu'jiz, could it not be that al Mu'jaz be properly translated as The One Who incapacitates.

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May 22, 2011 18:35:14 GMT Saalik said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

What if the person who originally wrote the dua is a Kaamil Wali of Allah Subhaanahu wa Ta'ala to whom were inspired the names.

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Then we should atleast know to which Kaamil Wali of Allaah Subhaanahu wa Ta'ala this du'a belongs.
And did this ever happen? Did a Wali of Allaah ta'alaa ever make a name he received from Allaah ta'alaa public? If that is the case, I think we would also have them and hold these Asma ul Husna very dearly! So it would be odd if that was the case for this du'a. There are inspired dua's that were made public by the Blessed Awliyaa of Allaah Tabaarak wa Ta'ala, but (I think) never a not-before-heard Asma ul Husna.
And then it is very strange that this du'a is already attributed to Sayyidina wa Mawlana Muhammad Salla Allahu 'alayhi wa Sallam...without reference...

May 22, 2011 18:40:22 GMT Saalik said:

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Brother, even if it should have been al Mu'jiz, could it not be that al Mu'jaz be properly translated as The One Who incapacitates.

I can only trust that the translation of Hajj Gibril Haddad (Damat Barkatuhumul Aliya) is correct. But if that would be translated as you said, all the other objections still stand.

So the cautious way would be to avoid this du'a.

NOTE: I am aware that I am actually bringing bad news with this thread, I will insha Allaah 'Azzawajal post some other dua's/Daroods as some kind of compensation.

[Saalik]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Brother Qasiem, so far I found mu`jiz and mu`jaz having same meaning. Copy/paste in google translator:

Mu'jiz: translate.google.com/#ar

مُعْجِز

مُعْجَز


For accuracy, if it's possible for you to check in an arabic dictionary and then post the meaning here that would be helpful.

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Since you can only trust the translation of Hajj Gibril Haddad how far then can you trust his opinion on some leading deobandis:

www.sunnah.org/msaec/articles/Deobandis.htm

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What is even worse, the online Arabic text of this “Du`a Gandjul Arsh” contains mistakes......................

How many mistakes have been detected by Hajj Gibril Haddad. Has he also mentioned the grammar problems apart from saying: "Some of its syntax shows it was written by a non-Arab speaker."

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Where in the dua is al-safi written - I didn't find any in the versions I checked apart from Safiyyullah in relation to Hazrat Adam Alayhis Salaam which means the One who was Chosen by Allah (Azzawajal). Nowhere in this phrase is any indication that it is being used as a Name or Attribute of Allah Ta'ala.

Inshah Allah! when free (may be next week or later than that) I'll post the urdu translations of the parts being objected to - urdu translation is more closer to Arabic than English.

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May 23, 2011 17:20:14 GMT Saalik said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

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Since you can only trust the translation of Hajj Gibril Haddad how far then can you trust his opinion on some leading deobandis:

www.sunnah.org/msaec/articles/Deobandis.htm

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Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Thanks for helping me out! I hope eventually that this du'a is legit after all...

Gibril Haddad was brainwashed by deobandi's. They always act as if they are sunni's, then brainwash a scholar, say that everything that is said about their "deobandi sholars" are "lies", and then they say "look, that scholar says that our 'aqeedah is right!"

But after he actually discovered their 'aqeedah (their kufr....) he rejected their kufr here: mac.abc.se/home/onesr/d/tqi_e.pdf.

I will try and contact sunnah.org and Gibril Haddad to remove some articles from the sites, insha Allaah 'Azzawajal!

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I havo no acces to an Arabic dictionary, sorry...

And yes again, I can only trust his words for saying that there are some errors with the syntax in the du'a. But he is actually a very learnt sunni scholar, so I think I can trust him on that.

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In the sixth line of the du'a is: Laa ilaaha illallaahu subhaanal qawiyyil wafiyyi

Mawlana Goelam Rasoel Alladien (may Allaah ta'alaa grant him more knowledge and power to spread Islam), a sunni scholar from Surinam (he wrote a lot of Dutch books for us , translates the following as: Laa ilaa illallaahu subhaanal ghaniyyil mu'jizi: there is no god except Allah, glory be to the independent, the victorious.
And he took from our books and wrote/translated the du'a. Maybe these names are unknown by Shaykh Gibril because we got them through our awliyaa of Hindustaan...Like you mentioned.

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I will think about formulating a question for Shaykh Gibril about the Names and Attributes of Allaah in general, to get a clarification as which Names and Attributes are valid, because there are a lot more Attributes in the du'a that he did find correct, but are not of the "standard" 99.

Some names are derived from the ahadith and Qur'an, but not specifically mentioned, the action of Allaah of "veiling sins" is mentioned, and thus the Attribute "As-sattaar" is derived from that verse. And the Name As-Sattaar is more widely used. And also from this verse we got the name "Sultaan" of Allaah 'Azzawajal:

And here he also shows us that Du'a e Jameela is permissible to recite: eshaykh.com/ibadat-worship/dua-e-jamila/.

[mehtab]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

so if there is errors in this dua it means it is not from Allah so how come there the story of when it was given etc

[Saalik]

Sept 23, 2011 18:57:19 GMT mehtab said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

so if there is errors in this dua it means it is not from Allah so how come there the story of when it was given etc

Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu


Please read all the posts again.

[Sayyad Ayaz]

@ brother SAALIK thnx for clearing the doubts.. may Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala give u more ilm and increase ur faith (IMAN), and make u successfull here & after ...

Im proud of u brother ....

[annisa]

asslamoalaykum brothers, can you please clarify whether it's ok to continue to pray the dua or hot,

[fatima01]

Salam to all muslims . dua e gang ul arsh online has some errors that has white background and mostly posted online but u can read at this link
wazaifcollection.blogspot.com/p/dua-ganjul-arsh.html

I found no error so far in this . and Alhamdulillah I think we should read this Dua as it is reffered from hadis e kudsi.

[sibghatullah]

Assalam o Alaikum,..

All compliments are for Allah alone, whether it is spoken by Himself or by a man. It is He who has given man the knowledge and insight to describe and praise his Lord in beautiful words. I believe there is no problem in reciting dua-e-ganj ul arsh.  May Allah be your's and our guide. Please leave such matters to God and stop being a judge by giving muft k fatwas. If there is any spelling error, kindly correct it and hope that Allah will forgive us.

[moontime]

The prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) is the best of human being and there is no one as perfect as him. But all human is created with Allah's essence and that is the soul. The prophets are for the mankind and not mankind is for the prophet's. This is very delicate and need wisdom to understand. The Muslim's for the last thousand years followed an Islamic romanticism and not adhering to a spiritual achievement. Therefore, it has become a ritualistic Islam, exercising but not gaining any spiritual height. Muslim's are emulating the prophet, but what are they emulating? If you just copy someone’s beauty, then it just remains someone else’s beauty, the problem is that Muslim’s are oblivious about this and fail to reveal there own conscious of beauty. Therefore, we see no amelioration in Muslim today, they all look the same. Allah loves diversity and each soul is beautiful and each beauty is divergent. So, whoever wrote Du`a Gandjul Arsh is someone who is pure in soul and who has executed his beauty, he is one of a kind of Muslim and not static Muslim.