Sohail
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Dec 25, 2005 13:00:36 GMT
Post by Sohail on Dec 25, 2005 13:00:36 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
I have heard all soaps contain animal fats. And also to be called soap it has to contain animal fats ?
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Salman
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Dec 25, 2005 17:02:30 GMT
Post by Salman on Dec 25, 2005 17:02:30 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu I have heard all soaps contain animal fats. And also to be called soap it has to contain animal fats ? Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Good point, the only thing i found is this. It looks like the expensive soaps are the non-animal fat. www.faqs.org/qa/qa-521.html
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Dec 26, 2005 14:32:28 GMT
Post by Walid on Dec 26, 2005 14:32:28 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu I have heard all soaps contain animal fats. And also to be called soap it has to contain animal fats ? Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Good point, the only thing i found is this. It looks like the expensive soaps are the non-animal fat. www.faqs.org/qa/qa-521.htmlThis is worrying i have just checked the soap we have been using for many years contains animal fats
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Dec 26, 2005 19:13:37 GMT
Post by Abdul Rafiq on Dec 26, 2005 19:13:37 GMT
Salam, the best soaps are ones which you get from health shops which are organic (fat-free), or are home made as opposed to factory produced..
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Jamil
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Dec 28, 2005 12:29:20 GMT
Post by Jamil on Dec 28, 2005 12:29:20 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Good point, the only thing i found is this. It looks like the expensive soaps are the non-animal fat. www.faqs.org/qa/qa-521.htmlThis is worrying i have just checked the soap we have been using for many years contains animal fats Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Im sure we have covered this previously, but soaps and lotions containing haram ingredients are jaiz (permissable). Its only when we inhale, eat or drink then they become sinful. But it is more desirable that if a halal soap, lotion or cosmetic is available then we should use those foremost.
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Dec 28, 2005 23:27:12 GMT
Post by farina on Dec 28, 2005 23:27:12 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu,
The soap we use doesn't contain any animal fats or alcohol - and we buy these from the supermarket so it's not that difficult to find fat and alcohol free soap here. Maybe things in NZ are a little different?
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Jamil
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Dec 29, 2005 14:31:37 GMT
Post by Jamil on Dec 29, 2005 14:31:37 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu, The soap we use doesn't contain any animal fats or alcohol - and we buy these from the supermarket so it's not that difficult to find fat and alcohol free soap here. Maybe things in NZ are a little different? Mashallah, if only more manufacturers and retailers took the New Zealanders approach. I think NZ is a lot more tolerant society to animals and the enviroment.
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Dec 29, 2005 18:04:20 GMT
Post by Abid Ali Hussain on Dec 29, 2005 18:04:20 GMT
This is worrying i have just checked the soap we have been using for many years contains animal fats Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Im sure we have covered this previously, but soaps and lotions containing haram ingredients are jaiz (permissable). Its only when we inhale, eat or drink then they become sinful. But it is more desirable that if a halal soap, lotion or cosmetic is available then we should use those foremost. I agree, if we couldnt use soaps we wouldnt be able to wear leather. Haram animal products are only for consumption i have learnt.
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Jan 2, 2006 21:49:13 GMT
Post by farina on Jan 2, 2006 21:49:13 GMT
Here is the reply from the Imam on this issue, should answer the question for us:
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem,
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
All Praise be to Allah the Almighty, who is the Lord of the Worlds, and may Endless Blessings and Greetings be showered upon His Final Messenger, the Last Beloved Prophet of Islam Hadrat Muhammad Mustafa (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam)
Jazak-Allah for your concerned question. If most soaps contain animal fat, then we should only use those soaps which contain vegetarian extract, or contain halal products. Any soaps that contain animal fat are haram to use, therefore any use of them should be prevented.
The Qur'an al kareem states:
'Hurrimat 'alaykum ul mytatu wad dammu wa lahm al khinzir' (Ma'idah, 5, 3)
'We have made haram upon you, the dead, the blood of an animal, and the meat of the swine'
and also:
'innama harrama 'alaykum ul maytata wad damma wa lahm al khinziri'
'He has only forbidden these to you carrion, blood and the flesh of the swine'. (Baqarah, 2, 173) (Nahl, 16, 115).
These verses show us that any animal that has been lifeless, except that which is slaughtered in Allah's name, is haram. Any extract use from such animals will also be made haram. Those people who had used animal fat cotained in their soap, but was not aware of the fact that their soap was haram, have not the obligation of repeating their salah, as ignorance towards the validity, of a product constitutes no understanding towards its permissability, and in such a case, the said prayers will remain valid, until the misuse of the haram product.
The best solution is to stop any use of such soaps, and to prevent their use in the future. In cases where you have no alternative, as in the case for skin conditions, then normally the Muslim doctors, or surgeons can have the situation explained, that, our religion does not allow for us to use soaps that contain animal fats, is it therefore possible to prescribe me with some other form of medication? I am sure that you will find doctors a little more sympathetic towards such an issue.
The shar'iyyah, becomes very flexible in cases where a persons life is concerned. Examples that can be thought of, is the drinking or eating of haram substances where for example ones life is at stake, in the case of scarcity of food. But the use of soap, is a somewhat luxury, and its use in medical situations can constitute an alternative remedy, that is not haram.
May Allah the Almighty prevent us all from having to face situations where our lives are at risk, and may He ordain for us, that which is halal, and prevent us from the use of any haram material. (Amin).
Wallahu A'lamu Biththawaab
M. Waseem Ashrafi
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Jamil
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Jan 3, 2006 15:37:32 GMT
Post by Jamil on Jan 3, 2006 15:37:32 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Jazakallah for posting this sister, as i had been told the opposite to what the Imam has said. I apologise for giving anyone misleading advice, it was unintentional and was based on consumption as opposed to wearing or using it.
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Jan 4, 2006 6:50:29 GMT
Post by farina on Jan 4, 2006 6:50:29 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu, Not at all, we only do what we know at the time and if we are unsure then we find out from trusted sources. In this case Alhamdolillah the Imam has answered our questions. We all make mistakes. Fi Amanillah
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Jan 5, 2006 1:20:42 GMT
Post by Shiraz Ashrafi on Jan 5, 2006 1:20:42 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Its ironic, its the Muslims who invented soap, and now its us who cant use them I have a turkish shop next to me where I purchase olive oil soap which is Imported from Turkey, but im sure places like Lush and The Body shop contain animal free soap, though the soaps there are more pricey
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Jan 5, 2006 6:20:57 GMT
Post by farina on Jan 5, 2006 6:20:57 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu, Extremely ironic, I didn't know soap was invented by Muslims. I was at the supermarket last night and checked all the soap brands on the shelf and 90% of them didn't include animal fat and alcohol in them. I'm guessing we're just lucky in NZ?... But yes, it is a shame alcohol and animal free products are hard to come by for the Muslims.
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sunniboy
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Jan 8, 2006 1:25:50 GMT
Post by sunniboy on Jan 8, 2006 1:25:50 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu, Extremely ironic, I didn't know soap was invented by Muslims. I was at the supermarket last night and checked all the soap brands on the shelf and 90% of them didn't include animal fat and alcohol in them. I'm guessing we're just lucky in NZ?... But yes, it is a shame alcohol and animal free products are hard to come by for the Muslims. Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu I think people are caught up in many ways in the commercial supermarket price war. Some are lazy or too ignorant to check the ingredients or dont think halal haram apllies to cosmetics. Its sad but i speak from experience.
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Jul 1, 2006 10:41:41 GMT
Post by huseyin on Jul 1, 2006 10:41:41 GMT
I recommend brands of DURU and HAYAT(Turkish brands)
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Jul 25, 2006 7:29:17 GMT
Post by huseyin on Jul 25, 2006 7:29:17 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu I have heard all soaps contain animal fats. And also to be called soap it has to contain animal fats ? after the chemical process it is clean we can use them.(soaps) Ibni Abidin vol.1 page.210
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Oct 31, 2006 15:32:06 GMT
Post by ottoman on Oct 31, 2006 15:32:06 GMT
Here is the reply from the Imam on this issue, should answer the question for us: Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem,
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
All Praise be to Allah the Almighty, who is the Lord of the Worlds, and may Endless Blessings and Greetings be showered upon His Final Messenger, the Last Beloved Prophet of Islam Hadrat Muhammad Mustafa (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam)
Jazak-Allah for your concerned question. If most soaps contain animal fat, then we should only use those soaps which contain vegetarian extract, or contain halal products. Any soaps that contain animal fat are haram to use, therefore any use of them should be prevented.
The Qur'an al kareem states:
'Hurrimat 'alaykum ul mytatu wad dammu wa lahm al khinzir' (Ma'idah, 5, 3)
'We have made haram upon you, the dead, the blood of an animal, and the meat of the swine'
and also:
'innama harrama 'alaykum ul maytata wad damma wa lahm al khinziri'
'He has only forbidden these to you carrion, blood and the flesh of the swine'. (Baqarah, 2, 173) (Nahl, 16, 115).
These verses show us that any animal that has been lifeless, except that which is slaughtered in Allah's name, is haram. Any extract use from such animals will also be made haram. Those people who had used animal fat cotained in their soap, but was not aware of the fact that their soap was haram, have not the obligation of repeating their salah, as ignorance towards the validity, of a product constitutes no understanding towards its permissability, and in such a case, the said prayers will remain valid, until the misuse of the haram product.
The best solution is to stop any use of such soaps, and to prevent their use in the future. In cases where you have no alternative, as in the case for skin conditions, then normally the Muslim doctors, or surgeons can have the situation explained, that, our religion does not allow for us to use soaps that contain animal fats, is it therefore possible to prescribe me with some other form of medication? I am sure that you will find doctors a little more sympathetic towards such an issue.
The shar'iyyah, becomes very flexible in cases where a persons life is concerned. Examples that can be thought of, is the drinking or eating of haram substances where for example ones life is at stake, in the case of scarcity of food. But the use of soap, is a somewhat luxury, and its use in medical situations can constitute an alternative remedy, that is not haram.
May Allah the Almighty prevent us all from having to face situations where our lives are at risk, and may He ordain for us, that which is halal, and prevent us from the use of any haram material. (Amin).
Wallahu A'lamu Biththawaab
M. Waseem Ashrafithanx
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Oct 31, 2006 15:37:51 GMT
Post by Abdul Nasir on Oct 31, 2006 15:37:51 GMT
in the Guinness book of records 2007 there is the worlds most expensive soap which is made out of human fat
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May 29, 2007 13:04:27 GMT
Post by yusuf786 on May 29, 2007 13:04:27 GMT
SO WHAT SOAP ARE WE ALLOWED TO USE PLEASE CAN SOMEONE GIVE EVERYONE A LIST JAZAK-ALLAH SALAAM
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May 30, 2007 18:35:18 GMT
Post by Anwar K on May 30, 2007 18:35:18 GMT
SO WHAT SOAP ARE WE ALLOWED TO USE PLEASE CAN SOMEONE GIVE EVERYONE A LIST JAZAK-ALLAH SALAAM Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu1) African halal soaps www.alhannah.com/products/ac145.html2) minar halal soaps www.minarproducts.com/3) halal black soaps www.afrikanrepublic.com/cat_halal.cfm4) Sistema-London has produced Luxury Completely Vegetable (High Grade cosmetic cleansing base) COMPLETELY Halal to maintain your Purity and and cleanse your skin at the same time provide enhacing qualities to your skin with added vitamin E - please contact soaps@sistema.co.uk theres more if you surf around and many that dont even advertise on the web
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