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Post by Sister Nomee on May 1, 2006 7:37:49 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuHope all are well, I was in two minds whether to ask the Imam or ask my brothers/sisters in this section as mashallah you are all knowledgable What are your thoughts/views about unmarried women having peer/murshid?? I personally did bait with my peer murshid before I got married and my husband has different peer murshid (Hazrat Maulana Ilyas Qadri Sahib) whom I have great respect for. So what do others think??? should unmarried women wait till they get married and do bait with their husbands permission??? So come on and give your views??? and put my mind at rest ;D Jazakallah
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Post by Ashiq e Rasool on May 1, 2006 10:39:16 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
There is nothing wrong with doing bait before marriage, I was a young girl when I became a mureed, and My son and daughter did bait with Shaykh Al Islam, when they were in Haj 2 years ago.
Taking bait at a young age is an advantage, as well as spiritual guidence, from an early age is education of the spirit side of Islam which is very important in our early stage of life. If you mean having a different Pir to your husband, maybe that is an advantage as you have together two spiritual guidence in your life, which to me is great!
Taking Bait with a Syed Pir is very important as they are direct descendants to Our Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam), and to have Awliya of Allah guiding us and leading us spiritually, and seeking their Blessings is very important, as they become our intercessors, (wasila) for our prayers to be accepted. The Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) has stated in a Hadith " My Ahle bayt are like Noah's ( Alaihis Salaam) Ark. he who gets on board will be saved. he does not will get drowned."
The Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) likened the Sahaba (Radi Allahu anhu) to stars. He who follows a star will find the way,and he likened the Ahle bayt to a ship, for he who boards a ship should advance under the guidance of the stars. the ship will not go to shore if it follows the stars.
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Post by farid s on May 1, 2006 13:26:57 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuHope all are well, I was in two minds whether to ask the Imam or ask my brothers/sisters in this section as mashallah you are all knowledgable What are your thoughts/views about unmarried women having peer/murshid?? I personally did bait with my peer murshid before I got married and my husband has different peer murshid (Hazrat Maulana Ilyas Qadri Sahib) whom I have great respect for. So what do others think??? should unmarried women wait till they get married and do bait with their husbands permission??? So come on and give your views??? and put my mind at rest ;D Jazakallah I think its good that women, sisters, young girls of all ages get a sheikh. they well then as they get older get attached to the whole pir murid relationship and will realise the importance in terms of guidance.
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Post by Qadiri Ashrafi on May 1, 2006 22:27:55 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
I agree with everyone and a vgood post by sister AshiqeRasool, there is no harm in doing bait at a young age, if anything its more benificial because as you age you realise the significance of the spiritual link.
The only thing i would add is that the shaykh be pious and should obviously have a good reputation amongst mureeds. No genuine shaykh would ever accept any female mureed without witnesses in any case, if thats the angle you were looking for ?
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Post by Sajid Karim on May 2, 2006 19:42:15 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuI agree with everyone and a vgood post by sister AshiqeRasool, there is no harm in doing bait at a young age, if anything its more benificial because as you age you realise the significance of the spiritual link. The only thing i would add is that the shaykh be pious and should obviously have a good reputation amongst mureeds. No genuine shaykh would ever accept any female mureed without witnesses in any case, if thats the angle you were looking for ? No genuine shaykh would ever accept any female mureed without witnesses in any caseSpot on. There are false shaykhs and pirs who are out to make a name and a few dollars and their are true shaykhs and pirs who follow sharia to the letter because of their love for Allah ta'ala and His Mehboob (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam).
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Post by Mohammed Khan on May 3, 2006 11:49:02 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
As usual its the fake pirs who jump on the bandwagon and give a bad name to the true pir sahibs who would never displease Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta'ala)
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Post by Musa Kareem on May 5, 2006 17:33:54 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
I am actually amazed at the question, why can a single woman not have a shaykh?,
If the question was, should a single woman go and see a shaykh then the answer is No, she should go with a mahram.
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Post by Sister Nomee on May 5, 2006 20:23:59 GMT
The reason the question was asked because I have seen alot of married women have different peers than their husbands and it causes conflict between them
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Post by Shiraz Ashrafi on May 5, 2006 20:35:58 GMT
The reason the question was asked because I have seen alot of married women have different peers than their husbands and it causes conflict between them Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuThis is true because I know someone whos not taken bait and her husband and his family have a certain pir and they would like her to take bait with his pir but she wants to follow her family and take bait with their pir (Hazrat Sheikh Ul Islam to be precise). She obviously knows the best when she sees it and knows the real deal too
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Post by Fana fi Shaykh on Aug 26, 2006 12:54:51 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir RaheemAllaahum Ma Sal Lie Alaa Sayyiedienaa Muhammadien Wa Alaa Aalie Sayyiediena Muhammadien Wa Ashaabihi Wa Baa Riek Wa Sallim
YA GHAWTHU'L-A'ZAMU AGHITH-NI FI KULLI AHWALI WA'NSUR-NI FI KULLI AMALI WA TAQALLAB-NI FI TARIQI-KA BI-HURMATI JADDI-KA MUHAMMADINWA BI-SHIFA'ATI-HI WA RUHI-HI WA SIRRI-H. The reason the question was asked because I have seen alot of married women have different peers than their husbands and it causes conflict between them All the Silsilah Get Faiz from Sarwar-e-Konain Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa SallamWell Sister Its Pir's who select Mureed not Mureed Selecting Pir. Here i will put my Personal Reference My Father is Mureed in Silsilah Aalia Chistiya and my Mother is Bayt in Silsilah Aaliya Qadiriya. My father always want me to be mureed in Chistiya order and my mother wants me to be in Qadiriya order. I was fortunate to get Love from both the greatest Shaykh and Wali-e-Kaamil of their times.Both Shaykh wud make me sit on their Laps and Kissing my Foreheads. My Father ask his Shaykh to initiate me in the order but his Shaykh would say My son bring him next week. This goes on for year's. On other Hand my mother ask his Shaykh Hazrat take my Son under your blessed Flag.Hazrat replied O my Daughter , Rehan is mine and one day your Husband will bring him to me and he will request me to Initiate Rehan in Qadiri Order. After Year's my Father's Shaykh commanded my Father o my Son bayt your Son with your Wife's Shaykh.being a humle servant My father Didnt Utter a single Word and took me directly to my Mother's Shaykh and requested him to initiate me in Qadiriya Order. One-Day my Father Shaykh ask my Father to bring me to their Khanqah-e-Aaliya.There he Kissed my forehead and tell my Father 'O Hidayat dont worry your Son is Lucky and he will get Faiz from both the Order's. Both the Shaykh has taken Veil from this World , Still This Gulaam-e-Paak Panjatan is getting Faiz from both the order. Silsilah Aalia Qadiriya zindabad
Silsilah Aalia Chistiya zindabad
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Post by islamibhy on Aug 28, 2006 10:07:51 GMT
SubhanAllah! Brother Rehan, may Allah azzawajal continue to show upon you blessings like rain. Ameen
I do not think there is anything wrong with un married female getting bait. About the families not being happy, well it boils down to either ignornance or jelousy or even both!
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