Warda
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Post by Warda on Jan 12, 2007 13:50:33 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
Is bayat necessary?
What is its importance ?
Who is the best pir?
wasalaam
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Post by Sajid Karim on Jan 12, 2007 15:39:56 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam Is bayat necessary? What is its importance ? Who is the best pir? wasalaam This is a good article sister. www.spiritualfoundation.net/conductofthemureed.htm#95584035 |
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MadaniSister
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Post by MadaniSister on Jan 12, 2007 16:53:42 GMT
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Fana fi Shaykh
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Post by Fana fi Shaykh on Jan 15, 2007 14:09:51 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
JAZZALLAHU ANNA MUHAMMADAN MA HUWA AHLAHU
SAG-E-DARBAR-E-JILAN SHUD
THE NECESSITY FOR A MURSHID
If a person wants to learn any art form or gain knowledge/science he will seek help from an expert in that field. Knowledge of Almighty Allah ’s Zaat (Being) is the most difficult secret in the universe. It can only be achieved with the help of its experts, the Awliya Allah . Only these people can be accepted as Murshids (guides). The following quotation defines the need and guidance of a Murshid.
Ghausul A’zam, Hadrat Sheikh Abdul Qaadir Jilani Radi Allahu anhu brings home the necessity of a Murshid in a beautiful metaphor. He says: “The heart is the plantation for the Aakhirah (Hereafter). Sow the seeds of Imaan in your heart. Irrigate, fertilise and mature it with regular good deeds. If there is kindness and energy in the heart it will be fertile and an abundant harvest will result. Should the heart be harsh and contemptuous, the soul becomes infertile and barren and no crop will be able to grow. Learn this art of farming by its farmers/experts, the Awliya Allah t. Do not think your opinion to be sufficient. Our Prophet r says, ‘Seek help in every field from an expert in that field’”. (Al-Fath-ur-Rabbani, pg. 202)
Ghausul A’zam Radi Allahu anhu said: “Arrogance, hypocrisy, egoism, are all arrows of Shaytaan aimed at your hearts. One should formulate a strategy to defend oneself from this attack. The correct strategies are explained and demonstrated by the Mashaa’ikh (Guides). You should heed to their commands and act on them. They will guide you on the path of Almighty Allah Y since they have already travelled on this path. Ask their advise on matters relating to the Nafs (carnal desires), cravings and other weaknesses because they have also suffered their consequences and are well aware of the dangers and harms of evil desires. They have battled these over a long period of time and can confront, control and defeat them”. (Al-Fath-ur-Rabbani, pg. 150)
THE ONE WITHOUT A MURSHID HAS SHAITAAN AS ONE’S MURSHID
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Post by Fana fi Shaykh on Jan 15, 2007 14:26:46 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
JAZZALLAHU ANNA MUHAMMADAN MA HUWA AHLAHU
SAG-E-DARBAR-E-JILAN SHUD
Who is the best pir?
SEARCHING FOR A MURSHID
Ghaus-ul A’zam Radi Allahu anhu says: “If a person is unable to differentiate between a true and false Murshid, he should read 2 Rakaats Nafil for achieving recognition of Almighty Allah at Tahajjud time. Then he should ask Almighty Allah to inform him of those pious people who will be able to guide him on the Right Path. He should beseech Almighty Allah to show him the person who will intoxicate him with Almighty Allah’s love and adorn the eyes of his heart with the light of Almighty Allah’s closeness and inform him of unseen happenings that he personally witnessed”. (Insha-Allah by doing so, one will receive the answer)(Al-Fath-ur Rabbani, pg.146)
If someone is unable to do this then he should seek the advise of a well versed Sunni Aalim. At times, people take advice from the ignorant and become Mureeds of Shaytaan. May Almighty Allah protect us all. Aameen.
SHAYN LILLAH YAA SHAYKH SYED SHAH ABDUL QADIR JILLANI BAGDADI AL-MADAD
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Warda
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Post by Warda on Jan 21, 2007 19:02:01 GMT
many thanks to u brother fana fi shaikh
jazakallaha
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Post by omar786 on Mar 4, 2007 5:12:15 GMT
Well i guess i cannot follow path of tassawuf then because i m living in uae and i m not pakistani i donno where will i find one murshid  Other things that really scares me of doing bayah on some1 is that we are not well aware of sunnah and hadith so it is difficult for us to recognise whether this murshid is taking us on right path on taking on path of destruction . Since today modern world i guess it is difficult to find good ppl every1 wants to take advantage of others so many false mursheeds with nice big beards , sweet talk make mureeds who later become toy in their hands  may Allah save us from such people. There is lot of skeptiscm and chance in today's bad world following into wrong hands is more Well is there any chance for me to follow any qadri or ashrafi tariqa by some good recitals and duas prescribed by you who are already mureed following these tariqas atleast i can attain basic level 1 or 2 spirituality if it is not possible for me to go higher Please do reply . JazaakAllah Khair |
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Post by aabassi on Mar 4, 2007 6:03:35 GMT
Well i guess i cannot follow path of tassawuf then because i m living in uae and i m not pakistani i donno where will i find one murshid Other things that really scares me of doing bayah on some1 is that we are not well aware of sunnah and hadith so it is difficult for us to recognise whether this murshid is taking us on right path on taking on path of destruction . Since today modern world i guess it is difficult to find good ppl every1 wants to take advantage of others so many false mursheeds with nice big beards , sweet talk make mureeds who later become toy in their hands may Allah save us from such people. There is lot of skeptiscm and chance in today's bad world following into wrong hands is more Well is there any chance for me to follow any qadri or ashrafi tariqa by some good recitals and duas prescribed by you who are already mureed following these tariqas atleast i can attain basic level 1 or 2 spirituality if it is not possible for me to go higher Please do reply . JazaakAllah Khair pull the other one, this is your shaikh captain hook, sorry shaikh abu hamza  |
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Post by omar786 on Mar 4, 2007 10:12:15 GMT
lol...  who is this falestini or egyptn sheikh ? Is he really like this   |
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Post by omar786 on Mar 5, 2007 9:55:49 GMT
I had a serious question and what i get is a stupid joke back , u have become proud since u lucky to have pir and now u now better than others and dont want help others . Dont be proud Allah doesnt like pride and arrogrance . You must be having high status than me because you know more in religion than me and i am lost in finding the true path where i m divided between listening to ulema of diff sects trying to find true islam that doesnt mean that sit and mock at me.
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Post by E P N on Mar 5, 2007 13:25:32 GMT
THE NECESSITY FOR A MURSHID If a person wants to learn any art form or gain knowledge/science he will seek help from an expert in that field. Knowledge of Almighty Allah ’s Zaat (Being) is the most difficult secret in the universe. It can only be achieved with the help of its experts, the Awliya Allah . Only these people can be accepted as Murshids (guides). The following quotation defines the need and guidance of a Murshid. Ghausul A’zam, Hadrat Sheikh Abdul Qaadir Jilani Radi Allahu anhu brings home the necessity of a Murshid in a beautiful metaphor. He says: “The heart is the plantation for the Aakhirah (Hereafter). Sow the seeds of Imaan in your heart. Irrigate, fertilise and mature it with regular good deeds. If there is kindness and energy in the heart it will be fertile and an abundant harvest will result. Should the heart be harsh and contemptuous, the soul becomes infertile and barren and no crop will be able to grow. Learn this art of farming by its farmers/experts, the Awliya Allah t. Do not think your opinion to be sufficient. Our Prophet r says, ‘Seek help in every field from an expert in that field’”. (Al-Fath-ur-Rabbani, pg. 202) Ghausul A’zam Radi Allahu anhu said: “Arrogance, hypocrisy, egoism, are all arrows of Shaytaan aimed at your hearts. One should formulate a strategy to defend oneself from this attack. The correct strategies are explained and demonstrated by the Mashaa’ikh (Guides). You should heed to their commands and act on them. They will guide you on the path of Almighty Allah Y since they have already travelled on this path. Ask their advise on matters relating to the Nafs (carnal desires), cravings and other weaknesses because they have also suffered their consequences and are well aware of the dangers and harms of evil desires. They have battled these over a long period of time and can confront, control and defeat them”. (Al-Fath-ur-Rabbani, pg. 150) THE ONE WITHOUT A MURSHID HAS SHAITAAN AS ONE’S MURSHID Subhan-allah! Sayyed Saab you have explained "THE NECESSITY FOR A MURSHID" Masha-allah rather well, Jazak-allah! omar786 "there is more to you than meets the eye"? You act stupid but you are a devious soul, or maybe both. Follow Fana fi Shaykh's advice and if your intention is to find A MURSHID then you will Insha-allah find one! Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu |
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Post by omar786 on Mar 5, 2007 15:13:05 GMT
Thanks for advice pray for me ;D In mosque i saw a pakistani man big beard i went and met him and asked some advices but then he started telling me regarding 40 days we should go etc ....OOOOOOooops i said to myself wrong place , then i escaped from there  Problem is in my area very few sunni people |
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Post by nizamuddin on Mar 5, 2007 15:19:05 GMT
Thanks for advice pray for me ;D In mosque i saw a pakistani man big beard i went and met him and asked some advices but then he started telling me regarding 40 days we should go etc ....OOOOOOooops i said to myself wrong place , then i escaped from there Problem is in my area very few sunni people What are you talking about, why are you talking like this ? Write slowly and think what you have written, if you want people to help you otherwise everyone will ignore. |
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Post by Hafeez on Mar 5, 2007 17:33:00 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Brothers and Sisters please do not respond aggresive words by all means debate but debate in a respectfull manner by following the forum rules.
Jazakallah
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may Allah save us from such people. There is lot of skeptiscm and chance in today's bad world following into wrong hands is more 
who is this falestini or egyptn sheikh ? Is he really like this 
Problem is in my area very few sunni people
