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Post by sweetmadani on Aug 30, 2005 20:04:09 GMT
Voted 'Thread of the Week' Tues 6th September
Taken from the Guestbook of www.islam786.orgIn reply to the specific question raised above informally in the guest book of this website by a certain anonymous individual and for the sake of clarity and dissemination and manifestation of the Truth and True position held by the Ahl as-Sunnah wal Jama’ah - I would like to open and share this issue on the forum to remove any doubt, deter and defend from the evil suggestions, whispers and infamous comments of those unfortunate people who feel obliged or are inspired to attack, harm or slander the dear and blessed Ahl al-Bayt and their progeny, ‘alayhim us-Salam. The following is an excerpt from the famous work, ‘ash-Sharf al-mu’abbad li Aal e Muhammad; The eternal honour upon the progeny of Muhammad’ Salla Allahu ta’ala ‘alayhi wa alihi wa Sallam, written by Imam Shaykh Yusuf bin Isma’il bin Yusuf bin Isma’il bin Muhammad Nasir ad-Din bin Nabhani, ash-Shafi’iy, Allah be pleased with him. [B1848-9-D1932/1265H-1350H]. The famous Scholar, was a contemporary of Imam Ahl as-Sunnah wal Jama’ah, Imam Ahmad Rida Khan, Allah be pleased with him, [B1870-D1920] and known to have met his Khalifah, the Qutb of his era, Shaykh Hadrat Mawlana Zia ud-Din Muhajir Madani, Allah be pleased with him. The Imam Shaykh Yusuf an-Nabhani, Allah be pleased with him, has also written an encomium on the famous and irrefutable work of Imam Ahmad Rida Khan’s, Allah be pleased with him, ‘ad-Dawlatu al-Makkiyyah bi’l Maddah al-Ghaybiyyah’. One of the many special and distinguished qualities uniquely endowed upon the Ahl al-Bayt; the household and their offspring of the Messenger of Allah, Salla Allahu ta’ala ‘alayhi wa alihi wa Sallam, is that although they are the progeny of the Messenger of Allah, Salla Allahu ta’ala ‘alayhi wa alihi wa Sallam’s, dear daughter, Sayyidah Fatimah az-Zahrah, Allah be well pleased with her, however, they are uniquely attributed and referred to as the progeny of Rasul Allah, Salla Allahu ta’ala ‘alayhi wa alihi wa Sallam, as an authentic and actual direct legal reference for his descendants and their ancestral lineage. Imam Hafiz al-Hadith, Sulayman Abu al-Qasim al-Lakhami al-Tabarani, [B260H/873-360H/971] Allah be pleased with him, records the following words of the Messenger of Allah, Salla Allahu ta’ala ‘alayhi wa alihi wa Sallam: “Verily, Allah, The Most Exalted, placed the progeny of every Prophet, Peace be upon them all, in their loins [offspring] and my progeny have been placed in the loins [offspring] of [Sayyiduna, Amir al-Mu’minin, Imam] ‘Ali bin Abi Talib, [Allah be well pleased with him].” And the words of the Messenger of Allah, Salla Allahu ta’ala ‘alayhi wa alihi wa Sallam: “The progeny of every mother trace their ancestry to their fathers, save for the progeny of Sayyidah Fatimah az-Zahrah, Allah be well pleased with her, for I [the Messenger of Allah, Salla Allahu ta’ala ‘alayhi wa alihi wa Sallam, ] am their Wali; Legal Guardian and ‘Asabah; Legal Paternal Principle Father – relative.” It is recorded in the famous book ‘As’aaf al-Raaghibeen’ by the renowned Egyptian Scholar, Muhaqqiq, 'Allamah, Shaykh Muhammad bin 'Ali, al-Masri, al-Hanafi, [D1206H] with reference from the Treatise 'ar-Risalah az-Zaynabiyyah' authored by the Imam and Mujaddid of his era, Shaykh al-Islam, Hafiz al-Hadith, Muhaqqiq 'Abd al-Rahman bin Abu Bakr bin Muhammad bin Sabiq al-Din, Jalal ud-Din as-Suyuti, ash-Shafi'iy[B849H/1445-D911H/1505] Allah be pleased with him: “This special and distinguished quality is unique for the progeny of Sayyidah Fatimah az-Zahrah only, Allah be well pleased with her, and is not applicable for the progeny of the other dear and blessed daughters [of the Messenger of Allah, Salla Allahu ta’ala ‘alayhi wa alihi wa Sallam.] It will not be said when referring to their progeny, that the Messenger of Allah, Salla Allahu ta’ala ‘alayhi wa alihi wa Sallam, is their Paternal Father or that they are the direct descendants of the Messenger of Allah, Salla Allahu ta’ala ‘alayhi wa alihi wa Sallam, as is said when referring to the progeny of Sayyidah Fatimah az-Zahrah, Allah be well pleased with her.”
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Post by shamshuddin on Aug 30, 2005 20:41:07 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu A great post sweetMadani.  Just want to add something from Shaykh ul Islam's book on 'Love of the Ahle Bayt' ... Al Hasano wal Hussaino sayyeda shababe ahli jannahHassan and Hussain are the leaders of the youths who are in Paradise! |
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Post by Faizan on Aug 31, 2005 0:02:40 GMT
Thankyou 'Sweet Madina' for the most comprehensive detailed reply, one that leaves no scope open to question. I just love your opening paragraph
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Post by Jamil on Aug 31, 2005 13:48:58 GMT
Thankyou 'Sweet Madina' for the most comprehensive detailed reply, one that leaves no scope open to question. I just love your opening paragraph Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu I second that! A great post. |
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Post by Musa Kareem on Sept 1, 2005 22:01:15 GMT
Mashallah! Well replied brother.
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Post by simnani on Sept 3, 2005 22:16:05 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Alhamdulillah !! An excellent reply by brother sweetMadani. These mysterious figures just want to cause fitna and havent the grace to debate or challenge in the forums. Under normal circumstances they should be ignored if they're nameless but brother [glow=green,2,300]sweetMadani[/glow] has opened and closed the case. |
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Post by ahmad786 on Sept 4, 2005 17:10:34 GMT
I cant understand why anyone would want to challenge or question the rightful heir and progeny ? Is it jealousy, misguidedness or just stupidity ?
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Post by talib on Sept 4, 2005 17:37:21 GMT
Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim.
There are numerous ahaadith of the messenger of Allah (peace be upon Him), which favour the position, and the eliteness of his family (ahl-al-bay'ah). In this day and age though, some people may claim to be sayyid, wheras in reality they may not be. One of the ways in which this problem can be solved, is to see where they have a spiritual lineage identifying their autheticity, of being from the Noble Household.
There maybe cases where people have not even been given the light of Imaan, to identify who, and what status, rank, and position the ahl-al-bay'ah have. Such people are the rebellions of Islam, and should be punished according to the Shar'iyyah. (See Imam Ahmad Rida Barelvis fataawaa-e-Ridwiyyah, for the determination of the punishment for the false claimants, amd for the deniers (munkirin) of the ahl-al-Bay'ah.
The punishment for the deniers of the ahl-al-Bay'ah, are the khawaarijites, whom once rebelled against hadrat 'Ali (may Allah be pleased with Him), and who were dealt with in the proper manner, by the 'ulama' of the ahl-as-Sunnah wal Jamaa'ah, yet their ideology still seems to remain today. May Allah the Almighty save us from such false groups.
'anta minni wa ana minka'
'You are from me and I am from you'
This hadith of the messenger of Allah (peace be upon Him), states what love he had for Hadrat 'Ali (may Allah be pleased with Him), that Hadrat 'Ali is a part of Him, and He is a part of 'Ali.
No one can now deny that Hadrat 'Ali was not a Sayyid, or that the family of Hadrat 'Ali (may Allah be pleased with Him) were/are not sayyid.
Another Hadith of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon Him) states:
'anaa madinatul-'ilm wa 'Aliyunn baabohaa'
'I am the city of knowledge, and 'Ali is the door to the city'.
Can anybody now say, that Hadrat 'Ali (may Allah be pleased with Him), had nothing to do with the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon Him)?
After all, if one must acquire the knowledge of Islam, one must pass through Hadrat 'Ali (may Allah be pleased with Him). And if you do not pass through Hadrat 'Ali (may Allah be pleased with Him), then you surely will never acquire such knowledge.
In fact the people which make such doubts as to is Hadrat 'Ali a sayyid or not, are surely one of those people who fall into this category. They have never acquired the knowledge of how to derive the meaning from ahaadith (istinbaat), and how to retain the sanctity of a hadith with regard to its proof of the inner meaning (istidlaal), yet what they here from other people in terms of gossip, and heresay, is more important for them to talk about than lets say the excellences (fadaa'il) of The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon Him), or Hadrat 'Ali (may Allah be pleased with Him), or of the ahl-al-Bay'ah. Instead they engage themselves in the silly witted humour of the doubts which is caused by the temptations of shaytaan, and create pride in this for themselves, having the thought that they have an issue to stand on. May Allah the Almighty help these people see what is in priority, in terms of importance of Imaan, and what is false.
May Allah the Almighty keep us all firm on the way of the ahl-as-Sunnah wal Jamaa'ah.
A humble tribute.....
Talib.
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Post by Muhammad Shoaib on Sept 5, 2005 19:26:17 GMT
Mashallah an excellent post brother Talib. It seems we also have modern day khwarijtes today but in sheeps clothing. I have often wondered what these people could possibly gain though by labelling these allegations ?
May Allah Almighty preserve and give strength to all the progeny of pyaara Nabi Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam.
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Post by khadimSI on Sept 7, 2005 22:44:56 GMT
super post by 'sweetMadani' and deservedly post of the week,
and the question posed by 'Ahmed786'...
The answer is a combination of all three!!
Teri nasle paak me hai batcha batch noor ka
Tu hai a'ina noor tera sab gharana noor ka...
(Imam e Ahle Sunnat Reh.)
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Post by Musa Kareem on Sept 10, 2005 14:40:37 GMT
These people should correct their own lifes before looking for faults or making wild allegations.
"The Muslim who helps another when the latter's honour and dignity are under attack, shall be helped by Allah, Glorious and Sublime is He! - at a time when he would wish for Allah's help. But he who forsakes a Muslim whose dignity is under attack, shall have Allah forsake him at a time when he would wish for Allah's help" [Al Ghazali, Ihyaa Ulum al Din; Kitab Adab al Suhbah p 369]
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Post by simnani on Sept 11, 2005 22:44:54 GMT
These people should correct their own lifes before looking for faults or making wild allegations. "The Muslim who helps another when the latter's honour and dignity are under attack, shall be helped by Allah, Glorious and Sublime is He! - at a time when he would wish for Allah's help. But he who forsakes a Muslim whose dignity is under attack, shall have Allah forsake him at a time when he would wish for Allah's help" [Al Ghazali, Ihyaa Ulum al Din; Kitab Adab al Suhbah p 369] Subhanallah. “Follow (the advices of ) those (the Ahle-Baits), i.e. accept them (as your spiritual guides) who ask you no fee and who are rightly guided”. (Surah Al Yaseen : 21) |
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Post by Ghulam Mustufa on Jan 23, 2006 0:12:46 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
I have 'bumped' this thread at a request of a user who wanted some questions answering regarding the 'aal' of Sayyidina Rasool-Allah (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam)
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Post by Hafeez on Jan 23, 2006 11:58:12 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu [quote author=shamshuddin board=general thread=1125432249 post=1125434467] Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu A great post sweetMadani. Just want to add something from Shaykh ul Islam's book on 'Love of the Ahle Bayt' ...
Al Hasano wal Hussaino sayyeda shababe ahli jannah
Hassan and Hussain are the leaders of the youths who are in Paradise![/quote][/color][/color] subhanallah |
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Post by Mohammed Khan on Jan 25, 2006 18:12:05 GMT
Description of the connection and relationship of Nabi Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) with Hazrat Ali ibn Abu Talib (radi allahu anh)
taken from Rauza-tus-Safa
by Imam El-Sheikh Syed Mubarak Ali Jilani El-Hashimi
The connection of Hazrat ‘Ali—the Amir-ul-Mu’mineen with the Holy Nabi—originated in the family of ‘Abdul-Muttalib, Ali having been the son of Abu Talib, the son of ‘Abdul-Muttalib, the son of Hashim whose name was ‘Umar, called Umran the high, on account of his dignity. During a year of famine and hardship Umran had gone to Syria, and thence imported bread, on an infinite number of dromedaries, to the sanctuary, so that every day two camels were slaughtered and roasted; and the dry breads, having been moistened, were distributed twice daily. He was the first among the Arabs who invited guests to a repast prepared of moistened bread, and therefore surnamed Hashim.
Other chroniclers, again, have said that Hashim means one who breaks bread in a cup to make it a kind of porridge, but the difference between the two meanings is obvious. Hashim was proverbial for his liberality and unrivaled in gracefulness; the luminous beams of distinction radiated in such a manner from his forehead that whoever beheld his countenance had not the boldness to contemplate it, but looked to the ground. This, the Christian sovereigns knew from their sacred books, and wished to enter into connection with him.
One of these was Harql (Heraclius, the Byzantine emperor), who sent him an ambassador and offered him a virgin whom he guarded in his private apartments, but Hashim refrained from complying with his petition. Afterwards, however, he entered—in consequence of a dream he had—into a matrimonial alliance, at Madinah, with Salma, one of the noblest ladies of the Bani Najjar, who was decorated with the ornaments of intellect and sagacity, on condition that her confinement should take place in her own house.
After the consummation of the marriage the lady was taken to Makkah, but on her becoming pregnant with ‘Abdul-Muttalib she was on account of the condition again conveyed back to Madinah, but after she had given birth to ‘Abdul-Muttalib, Hashim went to Syria, fell sick in the vicinity of Damascus, and gave directions in his last agony to surrender the bow to the Prophet Isma’il, the banner, and the key of the house of the Ka’bah, which he had inherited from his forefathers, to ‘Abdul-Muttalib, and having, though young, bidden farewell to his perishable world, he was buried in that country, where his tomb is still known and visited.
Some say that Hashim went to Syria before the birth of Abdul-Muttalib, and that he had himself given the just-mentioned articles to his brother Muttalib, to whom he had also transferred the gubernatorial office, whilst the latter, in his turn, surrendered everything to Abdul-Muttalib. But Muttalib was the son of ‘Abd Munaf whose name was [also] Mughairah and surname ‘Abdul-Shams, but Munaf was likewise the name of an idol.
On account of his great beauty, he was also named Qamar [full moon], and because he had inherited the sovereignty from his father, the surrounding kings hastened to join ‘Abd Munaf. He had four sons: one of them was Hashim, about whom some circumstances have already been mentioned above. ‘Abdul-Shams was the ancestor of the Bani Umayya [called Ommiade Caliphs by European authors]; Naufil was the forefather of Habib, the son of Mu’azim, and Muttalib of Ali Shafa’i; the latter was thus surnamed because it is related that Hashim and ‘Abdul-Shams were twins, whose foreheads were connected at their birth and could not be separated, until at last the sword was resorted to.
An intelligent man, who had been informed of this proceeding, considered it to be a sign that the descendants of the two brothers would decide their quarrels with the sabre, which prediction was actually fulfilled in the enmity between his lordship the Nabi (Sallallahu ‘alaihi wa Sallam) and Abu Sufyan, between Hadrat Ali and Hadrat Mu’awiyah (radiyallahu ‘anhuma), and between the Imam al-Husain (radiyallahu ‘anh) and Yazid.
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Post by suhayb on Feb 7, 2006 7:07:38 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu, It has been brought to my attention that the person who posted this original question is from my home town  He has been causing a lot of problems here with similar questions to our Ulema and spreading his misguided beliefs. Insha Allah I will post some of the things he has said as I happen to have some of his original correspondence. I know this is an old topic but I have to warn the members here in case he rears his ugly head again in the future. Fi Amanillah. |
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Post by ahmedabad on Feb 10, 2006 14:13:43 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu, It has been brought to my attention that the person who posted this original question is from my home town He has been causing a lot of problems here with similar questions to our Ulema and spreading his misguided beliefs. Insha Allah I will post some of the things he has said as I happen to have some of his original correspondence. I know this is an old topic but I have to warn the members here in case he rears his ugly head again in the future. Fi Amanillah. Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu There is nothing ignorant people can say or do to decrease our imaan, if anything it only strengthens it further . |
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