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Post by vaseem on May 16, 2007 7:39:41 GMT
Assalamoalaikum,
Dr. Tahir ul Qadri is telling his dream to a crowd, in which he saw Prophet (pbuh) . There is other details, but one point is really outrageous in my opinion.
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Post by Hafeez on May 16, 2007 9:30:39 GMT
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Post by musaafir on May 16, 2007 13:39:40 GMT
he has become a heretic!!!! Be careful brother,as you dont become a heretic for telling of a dream you have,especially as one has no control over dreams. We can say Dr sahib made a mistake in informing people of it,but cant go giving out heresy fatwas. The brother who posted the above is probably the same one who posted it on another forum too,as a result causing massive fitna and people giving their own twisted explanations according to the level of their bias towards Dr TQ sahib. There seems to be one group of muslims that are constantly pressing these views,do these people not have anything better to do? If i was twisted like them i would tell a few home truths too just to tell them where they really stand,but that is not my way and causing fitna is worse than murder. Mods should lock this and not entertain such vile propoganda between parties and organisations.
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Post by vaseem on May 17, 2007 6:46:30 GMT
Assalamoalikum,
My dear Brother musaafir,
First thing that i want to clear that i am not amongst any of "The wrong & corrupt parties or organisations", which you are talking about. "I AM JUST A FOLLOWER & LOVER OF IMAM AHMED RAZA"
You are blaming to me that i am causing fitna which is worse than murder, So i will tell you, that dont you know that what your proffesor sahib is doing,
If i have done anything wrong, then i apologies myself, pls forgive me if i hurted anyones feeling.
Moderator's note : Please dont create Fitna here or you will be keepunder observation.
Syed Muhammad Rehan Hussaini Qadiri
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Post by musaafir on May 17, 2007 11:40:39 GMT
Assalaam Alaikum Brother 6 ulema out of the hundreds and thousands of others in the subcontinent giving fatwas of devience based on allegations made by a single third party do not constitute anything brother.
What did Ata muhammed bindyalvi sahib write?please tell me as i might be alot closer to him in terms of connection than you. Tell me what these ulema stated about him in their words.
You see showing some one a list of things that might not even be true would result in the mufti or aalim giving a verdict on what he sees in front of him not neccassarily doing resaech into it and asking the Dr himself.
Why did the brelvi ulema along with deobandis and wahabbis put a fatwa on Allama iqbal for his "shikwa" and why did they take them back when he wrote "jawab e shikwa"?
The reason was that they based their decisions on what they were presented to them not based on asking Allama Iqbal Rehmatullahi ’Alaih himself.
Why do the majority of sunni shaykhs and and pir khanas in pakistan accept him as sunni?
Gulam sarwar Qadiri sahib wrote more against his credentials of ilm rather than his beliefs.
Brother arent sunni moulvis giving fatwas against your leader too? yes they are brother ask any senior member of your group he will give you a list.(Although i do not agree with them as they are more to do with jealousy against who i believe is an AulyAllah).
Brother to be honest this is just a ultra brelvi v minhaajian thing in which both are going over the top in their crusades,dont drag the rest of the Ahle Sunnah into your problems.
The fact is that this guy is doing more for sunni aqeeda than the rest of the others put together,they may not be ahead of "others" in wearing sunna but they certainly are ahead of them in knowledge.
Brother the fact is that the scholars you have mentioned above are sunni and one or two may be walyAllahs,but they are not the representatives of the rest of the sunni world.
Simply there is not ijma on the matter at all regarding Dr Sahib,neigh there is not even a majority but just a miniscule minority,this does not make him non sunni.
Do what you do best and leave these poiltics and trivial matters that some ulema get involved with,as it serves no purpose.
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Post by Haideri-Qalander on May 17, 2007 12:00:27 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
Brother Vaseem what you are really upto , The respected Imam Sahib of this Forum has already replied on Dr T.Q.
In your previous post brother Sword of Ali has already given you the link then why are you keep posting your views again n again.
Brother Hafeez , Who gave you the license to call some one heretic , You are just a moderator not a Mufti. You should be more careful with your words as you are responsible person of this site. I did'nt expect this from you.
Jazakallah khayr
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