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Post by Sister Nomee on Jun 28, 2008 16:11:01 GMT
does all this applies to Pepsi Cola as well? I think it is ok to drink pepsi right brother musaafir Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
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Post by Sister Nomee on Jul 2, 2008 13:02:06 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
Response from Coca Cola.
Thank you for your enquiry.
Our formulations are very valuable proprietary information, therefore we cannot discuss them. We hope you understand. Consumers can be assured that all ingredients used in products of The Coca-Cola Company are approved as safe by the country in which they are sold.
Further, our products are recognized as non-alcoholic .In the manufacture of Coca-Cola, alcohol is not added as an ingredient and no fermentation takes place. The ingredients and manufacturing process used in the production of Coca-Cola are rigorously regulated by government and health authorities in more than 200 countries which have consistently recognized the beverage as a non-alcoholic product.
I hope this has allayed your concerns and would like to thank you for your interest in our Company and our brands.
If I can be of any assistance to you in the future, please do not hesitate to contact me on our freephone number, 0800 - 227711, weekdays from 9am - 5pm.
Kind regards,
Sarah McCarty Consumer Information Centre Coca-Cola Great Britain
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
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Post by fatma on Jul 2, 2008 14:47:43 GMT
not a great reply sis is it!!!
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Post by Sanam1 on Jul 3, 2008 9:11:48 GMT
not a great reply sis is it!!! I think we should all ring that woman its a free number as I am, still confused. everyone please ring if you are in UK
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Post by musaafir on Jul 3, 2008 10:35:11 GMT
Whats to say they wont lie to you over the phone?
its your word for theirs in a court of law(if they were to be to sued) as recorded phone calls are not acceptable as evidence(unless sanctioned by authorities).
Whereas written statements by them(email etc) would be acceptable in any case against them,this on top of misleading the masses(since many would read whats posted on internet etc) could put them in big trouble.
All they have to state is that no product(whether in the secret ingredients e.g. certain "extracts") that is either produced using alcohol or has any contact with it is used in the manufacturing process of coca cola drinks.
Coca cola produces a kosher version for the jewish community in usa (that dont eat corn products) yet can't produce one for muslims by just guranteeing the above?
Just stating its "safe" and "legal" according to laws of the land(s)doesnt cut it.
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Post by fatma on Jul 3, 2008 10:55:54 GMT
but they won't say that will they as everyone knows that the most common way to extract vanilla is with alcohol. by the way does that mean we can't eat vanilla ice-cream
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Post by Haarith on Jul 5, 2008 6:23:29 GMT
but they won't say that will they as everyone knows that the most common way to extract vanilla is with alcohol. by the way does that mean we can't eat vanilla ice-cream Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuIt depends on how the vanilla is extracted. Click on this link: Muslimconsumergroup.com and then click on Vanilla and Vanillin. Wassalamu 'alaykum
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Post by mfirdaus on Jul 23, 2008 6:14:54 GMT
Well I don't believe for the fact that coca-cola has pork or pigs blood in it because I know it was juat a rumour being set upon the coca-cola company.
Regarding alcohol I may say that there may be a small amount of alcohol being used for the extraction. It is below 0.5% of alcohol and alcohol below 0.5% is not consider as intoxication.
Assalamu'alaikum
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Post by Sister Nomee on Jul 23, 2008 6:40:54 GMT
Well I don't believe for the fact that coca-cola has pork or pigs blood in it because I know it was juat a rumour being set upon the coca-cola company. Regarding alcohol I may say that there may be a small amount of alcohol being used for the extraction. It is below 0.5% of alcohol and alcohol below 0.5% is not consider as intoxication. Assalamu'alaikum Whether it is 0.5% or 10% Alcohol is alcohol which should be avoided at any cost! Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
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Post by Sag E Dargah E Jilani on Jul 23, 2008 7:55:29 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
well i am happy to say it is totally banned in our house. rubicon mango and guava rule ;D ;D.
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
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Post by mfirdaus on Jul 23, 2008 8:30:45 GMT
Assalamu'alaykum sister Nomee, Regarding the alcohol which was lectured by Sheikh Bilal philips, I need your opinion about this matter thank you May Allah bless us..
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Post by Sister Nomee on Jul 23, 2008 9:05:18 GMT
Assalamu'alaykum sister Nomee, Sorry forgot to link the website regarding the alcohol which was lectured by Sheikh Bilal philips, I need your opinion about this matter thank you May Allah bless us.. Here is the video lectured by Sheikh Bilal Philips I am not a big fan of Bilal Philips or his misguided teachings maybe share a link on the authenticity of Alcohol by a Sunni Scholar? Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
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Post by Sag E Dargah E Jilani on Aug 2, 2008 10:45:00 GMT
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Post by rasheedahmed on Dec 29, 2008 5:09:48 GMT
Assalam O Alaikum
Br. Musafir is right. The food companies's 800 number or customer service department tells what information they get from QA or Technical service department. All the answers are based on layman term no technical unless it is requested. At one time I was involved breifly with customer service department of Nabisco for their brownie products. Very recently I got a e-mail from Coke USA that they will not give me the information on the presence or absence of alcohol in natural flavor. On the other hand Pepsi USA has sent me a e-mail that there is no alcohol in natural flavor in regular Pepsi.
The rumers about pork blood in Coke is not true because I have a Muslim professor in a prominent Thailand University running a lab just for Halal foods. He told me that there is no pork blood in the coke based on his analysis. I think they have a Pork DNA detecting Kit. Both Coke and Pepsi concentrate in USA/Canada are kosher certified. The bottler just add water, sugar or corn syrup to the concentrate to make the coke and Pepsi.
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Post by Musafir on Dec 31, 2008 21:00:20 GMT
On the other hand Pepsi USA has sent me a e-mail that there is no alcohol in natural flavor in regular Pepsi. Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuShah sahib what does your research say on the contents of Pepsi here in uk? Is it free from any(even trace) animal and alcohol ingredients? Also i read somewhere that Ulema of south Africa during their research into coca cola manufacture found that all fizzy drinkks have trace elements of alcohol present,is this true. Please allay our fears on this issue.
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Post by rasheedahmed on Jan 3, 2009 22:18:30 GMT
Assalam O Alaikum Br. Musafir,
Before I start, I would like to mentioned that Vanilla Pepsi, Diet Vanilla Pepsi, Vanilla Coke(I do not know it is still available in UK) Diet Vanilla Coke are not Halal because they contain Vanilla Extract made with 35% alcohol.
Pepsi in UK either made by adding water, High Fructose Corn Syrup or Sugar by bottlers to Pepsi concentrates made in UK or shipped from USA. I do not know.
Both Pepsi and Coke concentrates in USA/Canada are kosher certified, it means no animal derived ingredient is used except Cochineal(a red color obtained from female insects in South America. Insects are Haram both in Islam and Judia religions) containing products.
Both regular/diet Pepsi and Coke contains natural flavor. Natural flavor has two components, one flavor component and other is solvent or carrier component. The flavor component if obtained from fruit sources then there will be minute amount of natural alcohol deveolped during maturing of fruit. All riped fruits with minute amount of natural alcohol are Halal so does the bread and Naan. As Pepsi wrote me that they do not use alcohol as a solvent then on the analysis of regular or diet pepsi on gas chromotgraphy(a instrument detect different components as peaks on a graph) it still shows the peak of ethyl alcohol present in flavor component of the natural flavor which is obtained from fruit source. Probably this is the reason some ulema mentioned traces of alcohol in drinks in South Africa. It is possible in each country pepsi or coke requires to make concentrates for bottlers with natural flavor with or without alcohol as a solvent. It is also possible in order to keep secret formula they might send one or three ingredients togther for concentrate from USA. The science has so advanced now a days that they can very closely find out the exact formula of coke or pepsi.
In the natural flavor both of it components has to be from Halal source, the flavor and solvent or carrier. The flavor component of natural flavor could be from animal source too either pork or non zabiha beef in some food products such as gravy. The solvent component if from Propylene Glycol(from petroleum source) then this component is Halal but if flavor component is from animal source then the whole natural flavor is not Halal. In case of artificial flavor, the flavor component is always from chemical or synthetic sources which is Halal but solvent component could be ethyl alcohol. In USA if a food product carries a orthodox kosher symbol such as OU, Kuf K, K under circle, CRC, V, COOR, MK(in Canada) on it package it means the flavor component of natural or artificial flavor is Halal. But solvent component could be alcohol.
I did not see a statement suitable for vegetarian on Pepsi cans or bottle in UK but I think they do not use animal derived ingredients in Pepsi.
My suggestion is to contact Pepsi in UK and ask whether they use any animal derived ingredients and alcohol as a solvent in natural flavor in their regular or diet Pepsi.
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Post by adee on Jan 5, 2009 11:06:07 GMT
WELL OUR COME FROM OMAN DOES IT CONTAIN SUCH THINGS IN IT
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Post by rasheedahmed on Jan 5, 2009 22:02:40 GMT
Assalam O Alaikum
The bottler for your area is in Oman, they just add water, High Fructose Corn Syrup or sugar to concentrates with natural flavor which might comes from Pepsi Australia or Pepsi Europe. I do not know whether they use alcohol in the natural flavor or not. But Saudi Arabia accept any food products without animal dried ingredients as Halal if the alcohol content is not more than 0.50%. So it is possible alcohol may be used as a solvent in natural flavor so that in the final analysis of whole product it may contain 0.5% or less.
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Post by shan on Jan 30, 2009 15:09:03 GMT
Thanks for the valuable information.People are in a habit of spreading rumours,dont believe them.But even though it doesnt contain alcohol etc ,we shouldnt consume them much because they are not good for health.Everyone knows that.
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Post by lateef29 on Jul 8, 2009 8:13:41 GMT
Brothers and Sisters I want to share some information on this topic.
Though contradicting views on whether it is Halal or Haram I just want to mention something which I feel strongly about.
I know that many from Western or any country for the matter of fact does drink this product.
I heard this many a times and from many and after that I stopped drinking coca cola and pepsi products.
The manufacturers of these products are Jews ( Israeli's) up till now its OK to have it ......but they give the money ( which we spent on to buy this products) to israeli forces in turn they use it against our own people AND THIS I CANNOT DO.
I can't spend my money on something which is getting used against our own people....I know its hard for many to come to terms of this fact.
even I used to drink this a lot ...A LOT but after hearing this I never ever touched their products...so HALAL or HARAM lets show our strength to them in this way ...if we can ...
Try and avoid using Jews products as much as possible.
Jazakallah khair...
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