The benifits of pir o murshid!!! PLEASE HELP

[Sag E Dargah E Jilani]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

brothers and sisters i need some help. the topic at our house the other day was pir o murshid but shockingly my brother and father say you do not need a peer. . so i got staright to work and searched this site and got the benifits of a peer i showed them. but they say they want hadith or verses from the quran. can someone please provide some hadiths or verses from the quran.

jazakallah

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[Sister Nomee]

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ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

Brother check these previous threads out

Importance of a Pir


Taking bayt with a kaamil Shaykh from the Quran


The following article is useful.

www.spiritualfoundation.net/conductofthemureed.htm#95584035

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[ank92]

some excellent links.

Brother remember the Great and Noble Sahaba e Kiraam Ridwanullahi alayhi ajmaeen took bayah at the hands of Allah's Beloved Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa alihi wa barik wa sallam. What more proof does one want?

[aaq]

Amir ‘Abd al-Qadir al-Jaza’iri: Following a Shaykh

alkashif.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/amir-abd-al-qadir-al-jazairi-following-a-shaykh/

and

Do You Need a Shaykh?
lamppostproductions.org/files/articles/Need_Shaykh.pdf

[aaq]

This doesn't really answer you question however it is good for those who are still searching. Then again this one Hadith will teach them a lesson.

'If someone relies entirely on his own subjective judgement, he will go astray.'

The Importance
of a Good Shaykh
Shaykh Abdul-Qadir al-Jilani (radi allahu anho)

www.livingislam.org/n/igs_e.html

[Faizan]

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Brother O4husi, I don't really qualify to answer this question as I am not a scholar and will not be able to quote extracts from the Qur'an or Sunnah. If you follow some of the links and/or some of the advice by some of the more learned members of this forum Im sure you will gain sufficient information and knowledge as per your need. See also some of the excellent earlier Sufism threads started by The respected Brother Fana fi Shaykh under the Tasawwuf section.

If I may just add from personal experience that this is one of those questions that needs a little common sense. If every thing is judged as valid only if it appears in the Qur'an and Sunnah then there are many aspects in our life and surrounds we need to question. Such as where or which explicit 'ayah' of 'hadith' sanctions the use of a mobile phone? Or eating sat on a chair from a table? Or travelling for Hajj on an aeroplane? We use these means to make our lives easy and comfortable, there is nothing in the blessed Qur'an or Ahadith to suggest otherwise. Hence every thing that is 'haraam' forbidden, disliked or harmful we can derive from the sacred texts - otherwise everything is halaal and permissible.

Hence the question should be where does it say in the Qur'an or Sunnah that it is wrong, false or forbidden to have a Shaykh? On the contrary there are many examples to support the need of a Murshid which in arabic means guide. We need a guide for many aspects of life. A child matures and is raised with the help and guidance of his/her parents, family, teachers etc. Allah the Almighty sent his chosen Messengers and Prophets as a means of guidance for mankind. The Qur'an is a book of guidance. Our Beloved Aqa Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam were the best of guides for the Sahaba e Kiraam. The Sahaba e Kiraam followed as the best guides for the Tabiyeen. They were the best of guides for the Taba Tabiyeen and so forth.

When one pledges an oath of alegiance to a Kamil Shaykh ie bayah, what that person is doing is in fact is making the pledge with Allah and His Beloved Messenger Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam since the Kamil Shaykh's hand is pledged with their Shaykh and their Shaykh with their Shaykh etc etc which ultimately links like a chain (ie silsilah, which literally means chain in arabic) to our Noble Messenger Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam and Allah The Most Glorious says in the Qur'an al Kareem to His Beloved upon whom be infinite peace,

"Yadullaha fawqa aydeehim (the Hand of Allah is over their hands) "

Hadrat Shaykh al Islam w'al Muslimeen on many occasions have stressed that when the Great Mountains of Knowledge like Hadrat Gawth al Azam and Hadrat Khawja Gareeb Nawaaz Radi Allahu anhum required and sought the benefits of having a Pir then why or how do the 'jahils' ignorants of todays society think they can do without??

Many Ulema state (not sure what the source is) that if you do not have a Pir then the Satan becomes your murshid ie guide, you easily slip up and follow his way and fall for his tricks too easily since the shadow of a Spiritual guide is not cast over you.

Hope this helps brother. May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala forgive my errors and make us humble to accept our mistakes and learn all that is good from fellow brothers and sisters of Imaan. May the shadow of our Mashaykh and the Awliyah Allah be cast over us till our last breath and also when we awake for the Day of Reckoning. Ameen.

[gulam-e-sahib]

Why it is necessary for every Muslim to have Pir-o-Mursheed?

MUSALMANO PAR FIRZ HAI K WO APNE JAMANE K IMAM KI SHANAKHT KARE.---(Hadith)

Truth is handed over from person to person; it’s not taken from books. Every book studied with a true scholar, is a book passed down a ‘chain of transmission’ or he was given permission to study and teach it, since the scholars recognized his ability to read independently. The light of truth is passed down from heart to heart.

Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'alasubhan ta’ala said in the Holy Qura’an (16.43):
Ask the people of zikr (who know reality in a world of illusion) when you don’t know.

It’s an obligation to consult people of knowledge. Even the Noble Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam) Muhammad (Peace be upon him, his family and companions) was taught by Allah ( Subhanahu wa Ta'alaAlmighty and Glorious is He) .You cannot take knowledge that has any import or weight in this world; whether medicine or engineering from books, you have to study under qualified teachers.

Allah ( Subhanahu wa Ta'alaSubhan Ta’ala) says in Holy Qur'aan the 17th Sura, Bani Israel verse 71:
"One day we shall call together all human beings with their respective Imams/Leaders".

The explanation of this verse is that each follower will be asked to be behind his leader/guide that he followed in this world. This verse is indicative of the fact that the mureed will be called upon on the Day of Qiyaamah to be behind his Shaykh, and under the flag of the spiritual order that he belongs to.



Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

SubhanAllah a beautiful post , as similar topic cover by me earlier ;

Taking Bayah with Kaamil Shaykh or Pir from Al-Quran : ashraf786.proboards15.com/index.c....ay&...read=11852

The great Mujatahid Imams on importance of Kaaml Shaykh ashraf786.proboards15.com/index.c....ay&...read=11848

The reason for people going astray ashraf786.proboards15.com/index.c....ay&...read=11849

JazakAllahu khayrun

May the light & glory of Hussaini-Alam Shareef always Shines like full moon & its Khadim's shines like Star's with the waseela of Punjetan-Paak, Piran-e-Bagdad o Chist o Bukhara. Ameen Sum Ameen.

Salamat Rahe Mere Pir ka Aastana

Sakhi Abdul Rahim ki nigahe khaas ka adhna kamaal hain
Khadim Banake Zeenat-e-Mehfil Bana diya

plz refer to above post by brother Fana fi Shaykh

[Sag E Dargah E Jilani]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

jazakallah for all your replies. i have been on the links and have learnt alot so i can back myself now and also brother faizans post helped.

jazakallah once again

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[Haarith]

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Great replies. JazakAllahu khayr. I have learned a lot too.
Wassalamu 'alaykum

[E P N]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

A very good thread regarding "The benefits of a Pir O Murshid?" I think it is important to find and perform Bayyah with a Kaamil Shaykh/Pir as suggested already by sister Nomee. Ideally it should be a Shaykh/Pir from whom one can gain Deeni Knowledge to ultimately bring you closer to ALLAH Subhanahu wa Ta'ala's Habeeb Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam and ALLAH Subhanahu wa Ta'ala too.

There may be other benefits too (worldly) depending on the Shaykh/Pir's knowledge, but more importantly the onus is upon you as an individual, it may make you a better person as a Muslim dependant on how close or distant you wish to be connected spiritually with your Shaykh/Pir.

Never questioning or doubting one's Shaykh/Pir's judgement, decision or order is paramount in sustaining/enhancing that beautiful bond of love, respect, loyalty and devotion towards that Shaykh/Pir!

I wish you the best of luck in finding your ideal "Pir O Murshid!"


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[salmaan]

There are many benefits of having a pir. (Hose who have a pir have a sense of purpose to every thing they do as everything revolves round the shaykh. They are generally happier with life and more spiritually inclined. But there also are many who have a pir but do not fulfill their duties to the shaykh and they are the ones who project negativety in the minds of others.