Spiritual Guide's passing away?

[newcomer]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

I'm just wondering what happens to the mureeds of a Murshid (Spiritual Guide) who has just passed away?

Do the mureeds have to renew their bait with another Murshid or does their bait remain with the deceased Murshid?

[madnibrother786]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

Good question, from my little knowledge I think I can remember being told that kamil shaykhs get more power to give faaiz when they take veil from this world, as they are not limited to the boundaries of the world now, and they can concetrate more on that mureed.

Sending esaal-e-sawaab and visiting the mazaar shareefs of ones shaykh is a great way to attract the shaykhs attention towards yourself.

Please correct me if I am wrong, I shall be looking forward to shah saabs reply.

Jazakallahu khayrun

[Fana fi Shaykh]

Jul 23, 2008 16:47:47 GMT newcomer said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

I'm just wondering what happens to the mureeds of a Murshid (Spiritual Guide) who has just passed away?

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

A Kaamil Shaykh is always there with the mureed. A mere mud or sand can't come between Pir and mureed.

When Sayyiduna Sayyidi Shamsudeen Hanafi (alaihir rahmah) was on his death-bed, he called his Mureeds and said: "If anyone has any wish or need, he should come to my grave, I will indeed help him in fulfilling it. Remember between you and me, there is merely a handful of sand, and how can a mere handful of sand be a screen between a Murshid and his Mureed. If the sand does become a screen, then the Murshid cannot be a perfect Man (Insaan-e-Kaamil)."

My beloved Murshid-e-Kamil took veil 11 year's ago(May Allah grant him high place in Janna'h).

I met many Shaykh's & Sufi sit with them take their sohbet but never take talib-e-bayah.

I share very special relationship with my Shaykh' son and grandson's but still i did'nt took bayah wid them.

I never feel my Shaykh is away from me, i always feel his Nazre karam on me.

Duniya mere haal se wakif nahi magar
daawe se keh raha hun ki wo bekhabar nahi

Everyday i lock myself and sit alone and just picturise my Shaykh and feel the warmness in my heart.

main unse kar raha tha tasawwur mein guftagu
duniya samjh rahi thi ke deewana hogaya hun main

Do the mureeds have to renew their bait with another Murshid or does their bait remain with the deceased Murshid?

One can take Talib-e-Bayah with another shaykh , But on the day of judgement he will be standing under the Flag of his Shaykh.

It is most advisable to take talib-e-bayah from one's Shaykh Janasheen , Son or Khalifa.

Tariqa dont stop you from taking talib-e-bayah.

But always remember all the barakah in spiritual path will come from your Shaykh.

JazakAllahu khayrun

ISI GHAR SE MILA HAIN FAZI QUL ALAM KE WALIYON KO
YAHA HAIN PUNJETAN GAUS-E-JALI SYED ABDUL RAHIM BAGDADI

[Fana fi Shaykh]

Jul 23, 2008 18:05:07 GMT madnibrother786 said:

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

Good question, from my little knowledge I think I can remember being told that kamil shaykhs get more power to give faaiz when they take veil from this world, as they are not limited to the boundaries of the world now, and they can concetrate more on that mureed.
Jazakallahu khayrun

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

You heard it right beloved brother.

Before the passing away of Moulana Rumi (alaihir rahmah), he revealed to his Mureeds a startling secret. He said: "Whatever conditions you may be in, remember me, so that I can be your protector and helper, irrespective of what state I may be in. In this world I have two types of relationships, one with my body and the other with you, and when, with the Mercy of Allah I am freed from this contact with my body and the world of loneliness is exposed to me, I will divert the attention of my soul to you."

JazakAllahu khayrun

ISSE BADKAR SAKHI ABDUL RAHIM KE KARAM KI DALEEL KYA HOGI
MAIN DUBTA HUN SAMUNDAR UCHHAAL DETA HAIN

[Fana fi Shaykh]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

Hazrath Sayyedina Khwaja Qubuddeen Bakhtiyar Kaki Radi Allahu anhu narrates that his murshid said,"That look at the face of one's murshid is recorded as an Ibadat"

He further states that Sayyedina Khwaja Gareeb-e-Nawaaz Radi Allahu anhu said, SayyedinaKhwaja Usman Harvani Radi Allahu anhu says that,'Whoever serves his murshid dutifully for a day,Allah will bestow upon him one hundred palaces in Jannat and in his book of deeds will be recorded 100 years of sincere Ibadat".

Jazakallahu Khayrun

Qibla naa chahiye naa Haram chahiye mujhe
Yaa Sakhi Abdul Rahim tera Naqshe qadam chahiye mujhe de do

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ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Subhan-allah, Subhan-allah!

This is such a beautiful thread.

Sayyed Sahib Jazak-allah for your efforts, I have learned a few things today from yourself and brother Naseer's reply too, I look forward to more?


Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

[Ashiq e Rasool]

Jul 25, 2008 10:04:26 GMT Fana fi Shaykh said:

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

Hazrath Sayyedina Khwaja Qubuddeen Bakhtiyar Kaki Radi Allahu anhu narrates that his murshid said,"That look at the face of one's murshid is recorded as an Ibadat"

He further states that Sayyedina Khwaja Gareeb-e-Nawaaz Radi Allahu anhu said, SayyedinaKhwaja Usman Harvani Radi Allahu anhu says that,'Whoever serves his murshid dutifully for a day,Allah will bestow upon him one hundred palaces in Jannat and in his book of deeds will be recorded 100 years of sincere Ibadat".

Jazakallahu Khayrun

Qibla naa chahiye naa Haram chahiye mujhe
Yaa Sakhi Abdul Rahim tera Naqshe qadam chahiye mujhe de do

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

SubhanAllah! SubhanAllah! beautiful replies By Sayyad Shah Sahib, I too have leanrt so much from this thread, may Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala reward you in abundance in this world and the Akhiraat.

You are Progeny of the Prophet Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
My Master Progeny Of Rasul Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
You are my perfect Shaykh why should then the heart be in despair.

Dedicated to my Pir O Murshid Ra'ees al Muhaqqiqeen Hadrat Shaykh Ul Islam, w'al Muslimeen'.
(By Hadrat Mawlana Munna Khalil Athar Ashrafi Rampuri.)

( Taken from Haj with My Shaykh by brother Faizan)

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

[Zuhair Nasir]

SubhanAllah Excellent Knowledgable Thread

JazakAllah Khairun Shah Shab For Your Efforts

[Sag E Dargah E Jilani]

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Everyday i lock myself and sit alone and just picturise my Shaykh and feel the warmness in my heart.

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subhanallah shah saab. that is heart touching

[Mohammed Khan]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Great comments.

Correct me if im wrong but doesnt renewing bayat depend on the shaykhs tradition and family tradtion ?

[Sag-e-Jilan]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam


Masha-Allah some great inputs by beloved brother FFS.

jazakallah

[Fana fi Shaykh]

Jul 25, 2008 21:09:11 GMT Mohammed Khan said:

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Great comments.

Correct me if im wrong but doesnt renewing bayat depend on the shaykhs tradition and family tradtion ?

Beloved brother Tariqa dont stop anyone from taking Talib-e-Bayah.

JazakAllahu khayrun

KAUN SA KAAM SAKHI ABDUL RAHIM KI ZAAT SE POORA NA HUA
AAPKI NISBAT MERE HARR HAAL MEIN KAAM AAYI HAIN

[khadimSI]

Duniya mere haal se wakif nahi magar
daawe se keh raha hun ki wo bekhabar nahi

Subhanallah.

I agree totally with brother Naseer and respected Sayyid Sahib as your both correct. After the Murshid passes away the bayah remains intact as the Shaykh has not died but is alive in the grave and their faiz is 'jaree' living.

[sajjad dar ashrafi]

Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam

Mashallah a good post

[ahligamma]

786

I thought if one doesn't have a spirtual connection to his shaykh that being able to communicate with his shaykh by using muraqabah (after he has passed) it is required for you to goto another shaykh who can fullfil the path for you.

[qadrilover]

Masha allah beautiful stuff keep it up.
Can i get references for the above incidents please.