Post by khansahib on Oct 7, 2008 0:01:54 GMT
Assalamo alaykom,
I have since childhood heard Hadiths mentioning "black banners of Khurasaan" and has pondered over where these black banners wil emerge from. So I have put a litle effort into the matter and will mention some Hadith and present day facts that might InshAllah give us an indication.
Many brothers/sisters might disagree with me ,and I respect that.And If they want to refute me,you are welcome.
"If you see the black banners coming from the direction of Khurasan, then go to them, even if you have to crawl, because among them will be Allah's Caliph the Mahdi." [Related by al-Hakim (8572) and Ahmad (22387).]
"When you see black flags approaching from Khurasan then proceed towards it for verily the Khalifa of Allah will be amongst it." (Mishkaat p.g 471)
Where is Khurasan?
According to Ecyclopedia Britannica :
"The historical region extended, along the north, from the Amu Darya (OxusRiver) westward to the Caspian Sea and, along the south, from the fringes of the central Iranian deserts eastward to central Afghanistan. Arab geographers even spoke of its extending to the boundaries of India."
This definition tells that the following area is included in the Historical region of Ancient Khorasan.
· Northern Part of Iran ,
· Afghanistan,
· North Western Part of Pakistan and
· Southern parts of Central Asian Turkish states like Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.
In present day IRAN ,there is a province called Khurasan
And according to history we know that the old name for Afghanistan before 1700 was also Khurasan ,and even today in village areas people uses Khurasaan as name for Afghanistan.
Sofrom which Khurasaan are these black banners going to emerge from ?
Lets look at some more Hadith that can shed some light on this matter.
"Pity poor Taliqan (a region in Afghanistan) that at that place are treasures of Allah, but these are not of gold and silver. There are people who have recognized Allah as they should have. They are the supporters of the Mahdi in the End Times." (Al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Al-Burhan fi Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-zaman, p.59)
This above Hadith gives us direct direction of where these "black banners" will come from. It mentiones specifically a region named Taliqan. If we look at any Afghanistan map we will see that this region indeed exists in present day Afghanistan:
Further in the same Hadith its mentioned "There are people who have recognized Allah as they should have" . Who are these people?
In present day Afghanistan,there live many ethnic groups such as Hazaras,Usbeks,Tajiks and Pashtuns. The latter which is the largest group of Afghanistan consists majority of Sunnis adhering to Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamah. Among Tajiks,Usbeks and Hazaras you can find Sunni and shia mix.
After the Afghan/russian war and the civil war that followed, the country was totally thrown into chaos. Everywhere people were killed, tortured,kidnapped,raped etc.. Amidst all this Allah blessed the country with a group of religious students called Taliban.Taliban consised majorly of Pashtuns. These people were the ones who put an end to the suffering of the Afghan people by esatblishing SHARIAH ,the Law of Allah. In other words "There are people who have recognized Allah as they should have" .
During Taleban rool, the area Taliqan that is mentioned in Hadith was Talibans stronghold and this confirmed by Amensty International:
"On 11 September, after Taleban forces reportedly declared Taliqan town and its surrounding villages military zones"
www.amnestyusa.org/annualreport.php?id=DEA3CDBE75AC436B80256A16004BE7EB&c=AFG
So far from the Hadith we know that the "black banners from Khurasaan" will come from Afghanistan as Taliqan is inside Afghanistan and not in any other area or countries.
Let us look further into other Hadiths that goes into details about who the people of the "black banners" will be.
Abu Abdullah Nuaim Ibn Hammad on a chain of transmission on the authority of Al Zuhari who said,
"The black flags will come from the East, led by mighty men, with long hair and beards, their surnames are taken from the names of their home towns and their first names are from a "Kunya". If the people of the black flag divide, then the people of the yellow banner will attack, they will gather in the canal of Egypt and the people of the East and the West will fight for seven (days or months or years)..." (Asmal Masalik Lieyyam Mahdiyy Maliki Li Kull-id Dunya Biemrillah-il Malik, Qalda bin Zayd)
Let us look at the part which says "The black flags will come from the East, led by mighty men, with long hair and beards, their surnames are taken from the names of their home towns and their first names are from a "Kunya". "
If one look at the people of Afghanistan mainly Pashtuns they are very mighty in physical appearance compared to the rest of the ethnic groups. They have large beards and long hairs. Look at the pictures of Pashtuns:
And among the Pashtuns its common to have a surname that is of their home towns and and their fist name from a "kunya".
Al Hasan Al Basri said:"A man of medium stature will come from Ar-Ray (a far-eastern town). He will be dark and from the children of Tamim -- a Wasaj, named Shuayb son of Salih with four thousand men. Their clothes will be white and Banners black, and at his front is the Mahdi. He meets no one that he does not defeat and scatter."
Note : Taliban also wear white clothes and has black turbans
In another Hadith its mentioned:
Abu Hurairah Radi Allahu anhu says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasaan. No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Eela (Baitul Maqdas) where they will erect their flags."
If we look at the part in hadith which says "No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Eela (Baitul Maqdas) where they will erect their flags." . This is actually the case in present day Afghanistan with the Taliban. Nato and Usa which is worlds largest military power can not stop Taliban. Usa and Nato is admitting that they are loosing the war in Afghanistan:
Commander: We Can't Win Afghan War.
Sunday, 5 October 2008, 8:32AM
www.liveleak.com/view?i=9b4_1223217948
In another Hadith its mentioned the following:
Army Of Black Banner consists mainly of Pathans/Bani Israel
Narrated Abu Hurayrah: Allah's Apostle Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallamsaid: You have heard of the city, one side of which is inclined and the other is on the coast. They said: Yes, Allah's Apostle Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa SallamThereupon he said: The Last Hour will not come until 70,000 people from the children of Israel attack it. When they land there, they will neither fight with weapons nor shower arrows but will only say: "There is no god but Allah and Allah is the Greatest," and one side of it will fall. Thawr (one of the narrators) said: I think that he said: The area on the coast. Then they will say for the second time: "There is no god but Allah and Allah is the Greatest," and the other side will also fall. They will say: "There is no god but Allah is the Greatest," and the gates will be opened for them and they will enter. They will be collecting spoils of war and distributing them among themselves when a noise will be heard and it will be said: Verily, the Dajjal has come. Thus they will leave everything there and turn to (confront) him. (Sahih Muslim Book No: 40 No: 6979)
Qays Tribe:Narrated by Hazrat Abu HurairaRadi Allahu anhu Dear Prophet(Salallaho alayhay wa sallam) said: That a person called Sufyani will appear from the suburbs of Damascus and his general followers will be the people of Kulaib Tribe.He attack(so fiercely) that he will cut the bellies of Women and kill children. To fight against him, the people of the Tribe of Qais will gather. Sufyani will fight them and kill them so much that no valley will be left without their dead bodies
*Note:
Where is the tribe of Qais?Emperor Jahangir ordered his courtier to search for the origin of the Pashtoons and so the famous book "Makhzan e Afghani” was written in 1635,which also confirms the orgin of Pashtoons from the lost tribes and also tells about the the tribe of QAIS.
It tells us that the Qias was friend of Companion of Dear Prophet(salallaho alayhay wa sallam) and was the first person among Pathans who reverted to Islam. Most of the Pathan tribes consider Qais as their ancestor and therefore the Pathans can also be considered as the tribe of Qais.
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s_bhO1RdkIs
Beyond doubt all the Hadith given prooves that the "black banners " will emerge from Afghanistan and at present time the bill fits Taliban.
Now many brothers and sisters wil insist that Talibans are wahabis/deos etc.. I will shed some light on that as well. As I have previously mentioned we have to make a differance between Afghan Taliban and Pakistani Taliban. The Afghani Taliban are Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamah followers in Naqshbandi Mujaddadiya branch of Tasawwuf and among the Pakistani Taliban you will find mix aqida .
To proove that Talibans of Afghanistan are Sunnis and not deos /wahabis look at this video.A report by Al jazeera interviewing Taliban Sunni Sufis ,and in the clip you will hear them even say YA RASULULLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam . Deos and Wahabis dont say that:
alsoufia.com/video/afgan.rm
Videos of Sufi Saint Hazrat Abo Baqr Mojaddadi Sahib who is a well known Sufi Saint of Sunni Aqida ,in India, Pakistan Afghanistan and Dubai. "The Mojaddadi following members in the milions and includes top Ulema,Tribal Leaders,Religious Leaders,Taliban and Mujaheddins."
www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_yBu6cNY4U
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoVHDKz_-Pc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUykxFqC7o0
Sufism in Afghanistan
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Cox8fMHJQtU
Topic: Aqqedah of Taliban
Speaker: Qari Ameer Abdullah (Deputy Governor Qandhar)
Event:
World Milad Conference 2002, in which more than fifty(50) world famous Islamic Scholars from all over the world have been invited to join and share their views.
Special guests
Sajjada Nasheen of Ghous-E-Azam radi Allahu anhu,"Sheikh Syed Abdur-Rehman Gilani"
Sajjada Nasheens of Mahrerah Sharif (India), "Hazrat Moulana Syed Mohammad Amin Mian Barkati", "Hazart Moulana Syed Mohammed Najeeb Mian Barkati",
Hazour Taj-ul-Shriah Akthar Raza Khan Al-azhari sahib.At thi smeeting Qandahar Taliban governor professes his Ahle Sunah Wal jamah Aqida. Listen to the audio clip:
www.yanabi.com/mediabank/taliban.rm
ALLAHO ALIM
I end this post with reciting the following so none of you think Im a deo/wahabi. Im follow Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamah:
ASSALATO WASSALAMO ALAYKA YA RASULULLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
WA ALA ALIKA WA ASHABIKA YA HABIBALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
I have since childhood heard Hadiths mentioning "black banners of Khurasaan" and has pondered over where these black banners wil emerge from. So I have put a litle effort into the matter and will mention some Hadith and present day facts that might InshAllah give us an indication.
Many brothers/sisters might disagree with me ,and I respect that.And If they want to refute me,you are welcome.
"If you see the black banners coming from the direction of Khurasan, then go to them, even if you have to crawl, because among them will be Allah's Caliph the Mahdi." [Related by al-Hakim (8572) and Ahmad (22387).]
"When you see black flags approaching from Khurasan then proceed towards it for verily the Khalifa of Allah will be amongst it." (Mishkaat p.g 471)
Where is Khurasan?
According to Ecyclopedia Britannica :
"The historical region extended, along the north, from the Amu Darya (OxusRiver) westward to the Caspian Sea and, along the south, from the fringes of the central Iranian deserts eastward to central Afghanistan. Arab geographers even spoke of its extending to the boundaries of India."
This definition tells that the following area is included in the Historical region of Ancient Khorasan.
· Northern Part of Iran ,
· Afghanistan,
· North Western Part of Pakistan and
· Southern parts of Central Asian Turkish states like Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.
In present day IRAN ,there is a province called Khurasan
And according to history we know that the old name for Afghanistan before 1700 was also Khurasan ,and even today in village areas people uses Khurasaan as name for Afghanistan.
Sofrom which Khurasaan are these black banners going to emerge from ?
Lets look at some more Hadith that can shed some light on this matter.
"Pity poor Taliqan (a region in Afghanistan) that at that place are treasures of Allah, but these are not of gold and silver. There are people who have recognized Allah as they should have. They are the supporters of the Mahdi in the End Times." (Al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Al-Burhan fi Alamat al-Mahdi Akhir al-zaman, p.59)
This above Hadith gives us direct direction of where these "black banners" will come from. It mentiones specifically a region named Taliqan. If we look at any Afghanistan map we will see that this region indeed exists in present day Afghanistan:
Further in the same Hadith its mentioned "There are people who have recognized Allah as they should have" . Who are these people?
In present day Afghanistan,there live many ethnic groups such as Hazaras,Usbeks,Tajiks and Pashtuns. The latter which is the largest group of Afghanistan consists majority of Sunnis adhering to Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamah. Among Tajiks,Usbeks and Hazaras you can find Sunni and shia mix.
After the Afghan/russian war and the civil war that followed, the country was totally thrown into chaos. Everywhere people were killed, tortured,kidnapped,raped etc.. Amidst all this Allah blessed the country with a group of religious students called Taliban.Taliban consised majorly of Pashtuns. These people were the ones who put an end to the suffering of the Afghan people by esatblishing SHARIAH ,the Law of Allah. In other words "There are people who have recognized Allah as they should have" .
During Taleban rool, the area Taliqan that is mentioned in Hadith was Talibans stronghold and this confirmed by Amensty International:
"On 11 September, after Taleban forces reportedly declared Taliqan town and its surrounding villages military zones"
www.amnestyusa.org/annualreport.php?id=DEA3CDBE75AC436B80256A16004BE7EB&c=AFG
So far from the Hadith we know that the "black banners from Khurasaan" will come from Afghanistan as Taliqan is inside Afghanistan and not in any other area or countries.
Let us look further into other Hadiths that goes into details about who the people of the "black banners" will be.
Abu Abdullah Nuaim Ibn Hammad on a chain of transmission on the authority of Al Zuhari who said,
"The black flags will come from the East, led by mighty men, with long hair and beards, their surnames are taken from the names of their home towns and their first names are from a "Kunya". If the people of the black flag divide, then the people of the yellow banner will attack, they will gather in the canal of Egypt and the people of the East and the West will fight for seven (days or months or years)..." (Asmal Masalik Lieyyam Mahdiyy Maliki Li Kull-id Dunya Biemrillah-il Malik, Qalda bin Zayd)
Let us look at the part which says "The black flags will come from the East, led by mighty men, with long hair and beards, their surnames are taken from the names of their home towns and their first names are from a "Kunya". "
If one look at the people of Afghanistan mainly Pashtuns they are very mighty in physical appearance compared to the rest of the ethnic groups. They have large beards and long hairs. Look at the pictures of Pashtuns:
And among the Pashtuns its common to have a surname that is of their home towns and and their fist name from a "kunya".
Al Hasan Al Basri said:"A man of medium stature will come from Ar-Ray (a far-eastern town). He will be dark and from the children of Tamim -- a Wasaj, named Shuayb son of Salih with four thousand men. Their clothes will be white and Banners black, and at his front is the Mahdi. He meets no one that he does not defeat and scatter."
Note : Taliban also wear white clothes and has black turbans
In another Hadith its mentioned:
Abu Hurairah Radi Allahu anhu says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasaan. No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Eela (Baitul Maqdas) where they will erect their flags."
If we look at the part in hadith which says "No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Eela (Baitul Maqdas) where they will erect their flags." . This is actually the case in present day Afghanistan with the Taliban. Nato and Usa which is worlds largest military power can not stop Taliban. Usa and Nato is admitting that they are loosing the war in Afghanistan:
Commander: We Can't Win Afghan War.
Sunday, 5 October 2008, 8:32AM
www.liveleak.com/view?i=9b4_1223217948
In another Hadith its mentioned the following:
Army Of Black Banner consists mainly of Pathans/Bani Israel
Narrated Abu Hurayrah: Allah's Apostle Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallamsaid: You have heard of the city, one side of which is inclined and the other is on the coast. They said: Yes, Allah's Apostle Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa SallamThereupon he said: The Last Hour will not come until 70,000 people from the children of Israel attack it. When they land there, they will neither fight with weapons nor shower arrows but will only say: "There is no god but Allah and Allah is the Greatest," and one side of it will fall. Thawr (one of the narrators) said: I think that he said: The area on the coast. Then they will say for the second time: "There is no god but Allah and Allah is the Greatest," and the other side will also fall. They will say: "There is no god but Allah is the Greatest," and the gates will be opened for them and they will enter. They will be collecting spoils of war and distributing them among themselves when a noise will be heard and it will be said: Verily, the Dajjal has come. Thus they will leave everything there and turn to (confront) him. (Sahih Muslim Book No: 40 No: 6979)
Qays Tribe:Narrated by Hazrat Abu HurairaRadi Allahu anhu Dear Prophet(Salallaho alayhay wa sallam) said: That a person called Sufyani will appear from the suburbs of Damascus and his general followers will be the people of Kulaib Tribe.He attack(so fiercely) that he will cut the bellies of Women and kill children. To fight against him, the people of the Tribe of Qais will gather. Sufyani will fight them and kill them so much that no valley will be left without their dead bodies
*Note:
Where is the tribe of Qais?Emperor Jahangir ordered his courtier to search for the origin of the Pashtoons and so the famous book "Makhzan e Afghani” was written in 1635,which also confirms the orgin of Pashtoons from the lost tribes and also tells about the the tribe of QAIS.
It tells us that the Qias was friend of Companion of Dear Prophet(salallaho alayhay wa sallam) and was the first person among Pathans who reverted to Islam. Most of the Pathan tribes consider Qais as their ancestor and therefore the Pathans can also be considered as the tribe of Qais.
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s_bhO1RdkIs
Beyond doubt all the Hadith given prooves that the "black banners " will emerge from Afghanistan and at present time the bill fits Taliban.
Now many brothers and sisters wil insist that Talibans are wahabis/deos etc.. I will shed some light on that as well. As I have previously mentioned we have to make a differance between Afghan Taliban and Pakistani Taliban. The Afghani Taliban are Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamah followers in Naqshbandi Mujaddadiya branch of Tasawwuf and among the Pakistani Taliban you will find mix aqida .
To proove that Talibans of Afghanistan are Sunnis and not deos /wahabis look at this video.A report by Al jazeera interviewing Taliban Sunni Sufis ,and in the clip you will hear them even say YA RASULULLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam . Deos and Wahabis dont say that:
alsoufia.com/video/afgan.rm
Videos of Sufi Saint Hazrat Abo Baqr Mojaddadi Sahib who is a well known Sufi Saint of Sunni Aqida ,in India, Pakistan Afghanistan and Dubai. "The Mojaddadi following members in the milions and includes top Ulema,Tribal Leaders,Religious Leaders,Taliban and Mujaheddins."
www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_yBu6cNY4U
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoVHDKz_-Pc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUykxFqC7o0
Sufism in Afghanistan
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Cox8fMHJQtU
Topic: Aqqedah of Taliban
Speaker: Qari Ameer Abdullah (Deputy Governor Qandhar)
Event:
World Milad Conference 2002, in which more than fifty(50) world famous Islamic Scholars from all over the world have been invited to join and share their views.
Special guests
Sajjada Nasheen of Ghous-E-Azam radi Allahu anhu,"Sheikh Syed Abdur-Rehman Gilani"
Sajjada Nasheens of Mahrerah Sharif (India), "Hazrat Moulana Syed Mohammad Amin Mian Barkati", "Hazart Moulana Syed Mohammed Najeeb Mian Barkati",
Hazour Taj-ul-Shriah Akthar Raza Khan Al-azhari sahib.At thi smeeting Qandahar Taliban governor professes his Ahle Sunah Wal jamah Aqida. Listen to the audio clip:
www.yanabi.com/mediabank/taliban.rm
ALLAHO ALIM
I end this post with reciting the following so none of you think Im a deo/wahabi. Im follow Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamah:
ASSALATO WASSALAMO ALAYKA YA RASULULLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
WA ALA ALIKA WA ASHABIKA YA HABIBALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam