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Post by khansahib on Oct 15, 2008 18:11:46 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa SallamBrother Khanshaib how can you say it will be the pushtans so surely, I find it hard to believe especially from a group who forced Sharia on people(if forced on people can drive them away), how many people can lie about the taliban Brother , you dont need to belive anything regards this matter. The truth stands clear from falsehod. I have given you all prooves from Hadidith,historical facts, pictures,videos and present day events hapening in the region that points ALL towards the PASHTUN race who will be those who are the armies of Imam Mahdi alayhis 'salamTalibans established SHARIAH,and if you look at the situation of Afghanistan at the time of Talibans(Pashtuns) emergence ,there was to much murdereres,killers,kidnappers,drugdealing,chaos etc.. And if you study Islamic law during certain circumstances it allows to use force. Each and every human being in this world is not in favour of maintaining peace and harmony. There are many who would disrupt it for their own vested interests. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace. It is precisely for this reason that we have the police force, which uses force against criminals and anti-social elements to maintain peace in society. Islam promotes peace. At the same time, Islam exhorts it followers to struggle and fight against oppression. The fight against oppression may, at times, require the use of force. In Islam force may only be used to promote peace and justice. Lok at the following Hadith: Amr ibn Shuaib Radi Allahu anhu related on his father’s authority that his grandfather reported Rasulullah Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam as saying: “Instruct your children to observe Salat (the five daily prayers) when they are seven years old, and spank them if they do not observe it [/u][/i]when they are ten years old and then do not let them sleep in one bed.” (Abu Daud). [/b] In the Hadith it says we have to SPANK ( tappar) kids who dont read nimaz. This shows how important Nimaz is. So why couldnt Taliban be harsh on adult who were not praying Salah? So see my brother ,Taliban didnt invent their own system. The muslim world has been braiinwashed by the media lies they have produced to give Taliban bad names. Allah says in Quran to us muslims: O you who believe! if an evil-doer comes to you with a report, look carefully into it,…(Surah Hujurat :6) What the muslims have done in the world is that whatever is showed to us in media we accept. None has looked into if the news was true or false. Example. Teh evil USA and its media told us that SAddam had mass destrcution weapon, but truth was there was nothing in Iraq. Same way the kuffar and theyre media has brainwashed us muslim to belive that Taliban are bad etc ..and we muslims without chekcing the facts ha accepted all these thing. You see my point? So brother to tell you the truth. I was also of the same opinion as you people that Taliban are wahabis/deos etc.but when i started to study the matte rmy self, I found out that the Afghan Taliban and Pashtuns are all HARDCORE AHLE SUNNAH SUNNI FOLLOWERS and NOT wahabis/deos,but on the other side of the border in Pakistan,one can find Taliban who are deos/wahabis,and even AHLE SUNNAH SUNNIS. |
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Post by Muhammad Shoaib on Oct 15, 2008 22:41:54 GMT
What a load of tosh, i have never read so much drivel about red faces small eyes goats skin shoes etc
whats this got to do with the taliban?
the taliban are deobandi followers why are you in denial and trying to give them some kind of credibilty when they dont deserve any.
the taliban are anti sufi and call sunnis graveworshippers, do you want me to go on
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Post by king786 on Oct 16, 2008 2:22:54 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa SallamBrother Khanshaib how can you say it will be the pushtans so surely, I find it hard to believe especially from a group who forced Sharia on people(if forced on people can drive them away), how many people can lie about the taliban
Brother Sajjad I agree with you , not all the people including Muslims will lies about talibaan , what khanshib is doing is he in in blind belief believes Talibaan can do no wrong - taken they are Njadi anD will always remain Najdi , those sunni who fight with Njadi are also najdi - the Army of Yazeedi iS Yazeedi and cannot claim they are innocent Sunni who have killed Musl;ims on the commands of Najdi Osama and Deobandi Mullah ? and where just obeying thier commands ? ha ha then what is wrong and what is right after this ?
EVEN WRONG IS RIGHT AND RIGHT IS WRONG IF WE SAY WHAT TALIBAAN IS DOING TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN IS GOOD 9AND CONTINUE TO IGNORE THEIR SINS JUST BECAUSE THEY CLAIM TO BE THE ARMY OF MEHDI alayhis 'salam  OR FIGHTING FOR ISLAM EVEN YAZEED SAID THAT HE WAS FIGHTING FOR ISLAM AND HAD THE RIGHT TO RULE OVER MUSLIMS EVEN BY FORCE ? -
ONE HAS TO DRAW A LINE BETWEEN GOOD AND BAD OTHERWISE WHAT REMAINS IS NOTING BUT HYPOCRISY
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Post by king786 on Oct 16, 2008 2:38:36 GMT
whats this got to do with the taliban?
the taliban are deobandi followers why are you in denial and trying to give them some kind of credibilty when they dont deserve any.
the taliban are anti sufi and call sunnis graveworshippers, do you want me to go on YES BROTHER SHOIAB THE TALIBAAN ARE ANTI SUFI DEO NAJDI , THEY ARE CERTAIN ELEMENTS IN TALIBAAN WHO FOLLOWED NAQSHABANDI WAY BUT AFTER THIS BRAIN WASHING BY NAJDI OSAMA AND DEOBANDI MATERIAL I DOUBT VERY MUCH THESE PEOPLE ARE SUFI NOW , INITIALLY MANY PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THESE SUFI ELEMENTS IN TALIBAAN AND GOT CARRIED AWAY - BUT TODAY NO SUFI WILL SUPPORT TALIBAAN AFTER WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO SUFI IN AFGHANISTAN IN THEIR RULE , KHANSHIB HAS PRESENTED THE SAYINGS OF SHAYKH KABBANI BUT THAT WAS BEFORE WHAT TALIBAAN DID TO SUFI , I AM 100 % SURE IF ANY ONE DOES INTERVIEW WITH SHAYKH KABBANI TODAY HE WILL CLEARLY DISOWN TALIBAAN AS SHAYKH IS VERY ANTI WAHHABI |
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Post by king786 on Oct 16, 2008 2:57:13 GMT
YES AND THIS IS HOW TALIBAN MISUNDERSTOOD THIS HADITH AND SPANKED THE WOMEN INSTEAD OF THEIR CHILDREN ? THEY GOT CARRIED AWAY AND LOST THEIR MINDS These photos are caught from a video film that has been filmed by RAWA on August 26, 2001 in Kabul using a hidden camera. It shows two Taliban from department of Amro bil mahroof (Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, Taliban religious police) beating a woman in public because she has dared to remove her burqa in public.   Al Bukhari & Muslim narrated that Abu Huraira – may Allah be pleased with him – reported that Prophet Muhammad – peace be upon him – said: "Treat women kindly, they were created from a rib, and the most crooked part of the rib is the highest part thereof; so, if you tried to rectify the rib it will be broken and if you left the rib as it is, it will remain crooked, and women are like this; therefore treat them kindly"[/b].
I GUESS THIS IS THE TYPE OF WRONG INTERRUPTION OF ISLAM KHANSHIB SUPPORTS ? THAT IS WHY HE IS SO PASSIONATE IN DEFENDING TALIBAAN ? SORRY KHANSHIB see the facts this is not Islam and Talibaan are certainly not true Representative of Islam they are best worth the title of misguided and DANGEROUS PEOPLE against whom no Muslim women ,men child is safe .
MAY ALLAH PROTECT US AGAINST THIS NAJDI FITNAH - AMEEN
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Post by Ridhwaan on Oct 16, 2008 6:27:18 GMT
So why couldnt Taliban be harsh on adult who were not praying Salah? So see my brother ,Taliban didnt invent their own system. what rubbish is this  , do you mean that these najdi dogs looking at and spanking the "backside" of stranger women are according to hadith and is not their own invented system. in the hadith it is mentioned about children according to given situation but i've never heard of any hadith that encourages beating women. don't you think that these najdi dogs take vicious pleasure in their action by pretending to apply similar distorted and fake rule. do you approve the looking at other women's backside even without evil intention. |
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Post by king786 on Oct 16, 2008 6:50:18 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuKhansahib you have EXPOSED THE TALIBAAN BY YOUR OWN MOUTH I WANTED TO BRING THIS TOPIC ANOTHER TIME BUT SINCE YOU HAVE EXPOSED THE TALIBAAN BY YOUR OWN MOUTH LET MET SHOW TO THE WORLD THE REALITY OF TALIBAAN KHANSHIB SAID Also in one of the most ancient manuscripts Rauza ul Albab fi Tawarikh-ul-Akabir wal Ansab – The Garden of the Learned in the History of Great Men and Genealogies – by Abu Suleman Daud bin Abul Fazal Muhammad Albenaketi which was written in 1317 A.D [u]which clearly tells that the Pashtuns are from the Lost Tribes of Israel.[/u][/size][/b] HMM DOES THAT RING SOME BELLS  MY DEAR FELLOW MEMBERS OF ISLAM786 FORUM ? I WILL REPLY THE REST IN THE NEW THREAD
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Post by Shiraz Ashrafi on Oct 16, 2008 13:41:21 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
A Very interesting read, I have learnt alot regarding this subject
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Post by Saalik on Oct 16, 2008 14:18:33 GMT
Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuKing Bhay  , do you mean this  :- Different Groups of Khorasan mentioned In AhadithFor those of the brothers and sisters that has followed this discussion I want to go in details of the heading of this post of mine, to proove to you that the armies of Imam Mahdi are PASHTUNS and the group Taliban is mainly made up of Pashtuns.
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Post by khansahib on Oct 16, 2008 14:36:08 GMT
whats this got to do with the taliban?
the taliban are deobandi followers why are you in denial and trying to give them some kind of credibilty when they dont deserve any.
the taliban are anti sufi and call sunnis graveworshippers, do you want me to go on YES BROTHER SHOIAB THE TALIBAAN ARE ANTI SUFI DEO NAJDI , THEY ARE CERTAIN ELEMENTS IN TALIBAAN WHO FOLLOWED NAQSHABANDI WAY BUT AFTER THIS BRAIN WASHING BY NAJDI OSAMA AND DEOBANDI MATERIAL I DOUBT VERY MUCH THESE PEOPLE ARE SUFI NOW , INITIALLY MANY PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THESE SUFI ELEMENTS IN TALIBAAN AND GOT CARRIED AWAY - BUT TODAY NO SUFI WILL SUPPORT TALIBAAN AFTER WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO SUFI IN AFGHANISTAN IN THEIR RULE , KHANSHIB HAS PRESENTED THE SAYINGS OF SHAYKH KABBANI BUT THAT WAS BEFORE WHAT TALIBAAN DID TO SUFI , I AM 100 % SURE IF ANY ONE DOES INTERVIEW WITH SHAYKH KABBANI TODAY HE WILL CLEARLY DISOWN TALIBAAN AS SHAYKH IS VERY ANTI WAHHABI "king786" you are still beating around the bush and full of rubbish. I want to draw you attention towards a Hadith from Tarmidhi which explains something about AwliyaUllah: "Beware of the firasah of the believer, for he sees with the light of Allah," (Tirmidhi) Firasah is a sense of visual acumen, perception and insight. Allah says, "Surely! In this are the signs for the mutawassimeen." [15:75] Shayk Hisham Kabbani is a WalliUllah. He obviously posesses Firasat ,so if the Talibans were going to turn into wahabis/deos after the time Shayk Hisham Kabbani was blessed them, dont you think Shayk Hisham Kabani would have seen this? Dont you think he would have said I dont want to bless you because you are turning into wahabis later? When the Prophet Mohammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam made dua for Syria and Yemen in a Hadith and He Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam blessed them , it was for eternity not for a small period. When A walliullah blesses someone he blesses them for whole life ,not for a small period.I will draw your attenton to a living miracle of Ala Hazrat Radi Allahu anhu where he makes dua for a small blind kid to get eyes and live 150 years. Today that little kid is still living and he is 110 year old and he is seeing. See when the Awliya blesses someone its for the whole life ,not for a small period: You admit at the time of this interview Talibans are sunnis that is why Shayk Kabbani is blessing them. If Talibans were sunni at the time of interview why would they later convert into wahabism if they knew as SUNNIS what truth is? You see the crap you present here there is no logic in it. You are fishing like a blind man trying to score a fish , but each time you shit your self out .And I have prooved you time after time wrong from solid Hadiths, present event, history etc.. Secondly you have NOT answered my following question regards the 2 videos below I want you to see. uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7thLUQjJTLAIn first video a Taoliban member is put into a grave and you can clearly see him SMILE in his death,and from his body wounds blood is gushing out and the ones who are burying him are saying his blood is smelling MISK (perfume). In teh second video Abdul Ghazi who was the Imam of Lal Masjid in Pakistan ,was known to be TALIBAN and have contacts with Taliban of Afghanistan. He is dead SMILING. Now I hav easked you before teh following: 1. If Talibans of Afghanistan are wahabis/deos, why are they SMILING in death and why are theire blod smelling MISk( perfume)? 2. If Talibans were wahabis/deos why is it that Allah is giving them victory over Nato ,Usa (dajjal forces) in Afghanistan? You see , its a clear fact that wahabis/deos dont die with smiles because they are going to hell, but people of Ahle Sunnah aqidah are the ones who die with smile in jihad and their blood smells perfume, because Allah is happy with them. I hope this rings you a bell. |
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Post by ya habibi on Oct 16, 2008 19:10:05 GMT
brother khansahib, you have pasted a lot of information but some of this has got nothing to do with this topic directly tbh.
1) You have no proof, how do you know their bodies smell of musk? have you been to any funerals or done any ghusals on their dead bodies
2) the taliban are still fighting but have been defeated twice, once by the mujahideen forces and secong by the northern alliance, so where do you get this victory from?
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Post by king786 on Oct 16, 2008 19:35:49 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa BarakatuhuYES BROTHER SHOIAB THE TALIBAAN ARE ANTI SUFI DEO NAJDI , THEY ARE CERTAIN ELEMENTS IN TALIBAAN WHO FOLLOWED NAQSHABANDI WAY BUT AFTER THIS BRAIN WASHING BY NAJDI OSAMA AND DEOBANDI MATERIAL I DOUBT VERY MUCH THESE PEOPLE ARE SUFI NOW , INITIALLY MANY PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THESE SUFI ELEMENTS IN TALIBAAN AND GOT CARRIED AWAY - BUT TODAY NO SUFI WILL SUPPORT TALIBAAN AFTER WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO SUFI IN AFGHANISTAN IN THEIR RULE , KHANSHIB HAS PRESENTED THE SAYINGS OF SHAYKH KABBANI BUT THAT WAS BEFORE WHAT TALIBAAN DID TO SUFI , I AM 100 % SURE IF ANY ONE DOES INTERVIEW WITH SHAYKH KABBANI TODAY HE WILL CLEARLY DISOWN TALIBAAN AS SHAYKH IS VERY ANTI WAHHABI "king786" you are still beating around the bush and full of rubbish. I want to draw you attention towards a Hadith from Tarmidhi which explains something about AwliyaUllah: "Beware of the firasah of the believer, for he sees with the light of Allah," (Tirmidhi) Firasah is a sense of visual acumen, perception and insight. Allah says, "Surely! In this are the signs for the mutawassimeen." [15:75] Shayk Hisham Kabbani is a WalliUllah. He obviously posesses Firasat ,so if the Talibans were going to turn into wahabis/deos after the time Shayk Hisham Kabbani was blessed them, dont you think Shayk Hisham Kabani would have seen this? Dont you think he would have said I dont want to bless you because you are turning into wahabis later? When the Prophet Mohammad Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam made dua for Syria and Yemen in a Hadith and He Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam blessed them , it was for eternity not for a small period. When A walliullah blesses someone he blesses them for whole life ,not for a small period.I will draw your attenton to a living miracle of Ala Hazrat Radi Allahu anhu where he makes dua for a small blind kid to get eyes and live 150 years. Today that little kid is still living and he is 110 year old and he is seeing. See when the Awliya blesses someone its for the whole life ,not for a small period: You admit at the time of this interview Talibans are sunnis that is why Shayk Kabbani is blessing them. If Talibans were sunni at the time of interview why would they later convert into wahabism if they knew as SUNNIS what truth is? You see the crap you present here there is no logic in it. You are fishing like a blind man trying to score a fish , but each time you shit your self out .And I have prooved you time after time wrong from solid Hadiths, present event, history etc.. Secondly you have NOT answered my following question regards the 2 videos below I want you to see. uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7thLUQjJTLAIn first video a Taoliban member is put into a grave and you can clearly see him SMILE in his death,and from his body wounds blood is gushing out and the ones who are burying him are saying his blood is smelling MISK (perfume). In teh second video Abdul Ghazi who was the Imam of Lal Masjid in Pakistan ,was known to be TALIBAN and have contacts with Taliban of Afghanistan. He is dead SMILING. Now I hav easked you before teh following: 1. If Talibans of Afghanistan are wahabis/deos, why are they SMILING in death and why are theire blod smelling MISk( perfume)? 2. If Talibans were wahabis/deos why is it that Allah is giving them victory over Nato ,Usa (dajjal forces) in Afghanistan? You see , its a clear fact that wahabis/deos dont die with smiles because they are going to hell, but people of Ahle Sunnah aqidah are the ones who die with smile in jihad and their blood smells perfume, because Allah is happy with them. I hope this rings you a bell. I AM 100 % SURE IF ANY ONE DOES INTERVIEW WITH SHAYKH KABBANI TODAY HE WILL CLEARLY DISOWN TALIBAAN AS SHAYKH IS VERY ANTI WAHHABI I HAVE CONFIRMED WITH A ONE OF THE GREAT WALI OF ALLAH ABOUT THE TALIBAAN DREAM OF PROPHET MUHAMAD Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam I HAD THAT TALIBAAN , HE SAID THE TILBAAAN ARE INDEED BAD FOR ISLAM AND MUSLIMS SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS AGAINST TALIBAAN BECAUSE THEY ARE NAJDI WAHHABI THE WALI NAME I CANNOT TAKE AS HE HAS CHOSEN NOT TO BECOME PUBLIC HIS TEACHER IS NONE BUT KIZR alayhis 'salam TALIBAAN ARE DEOBANDI I DONT KNOW WHETHER KHANSHIB IS ONE THOUGH HE CALIMS TO HATE DEBAND BUT LOVES THE DEOBANDI MULLAH OMAR , VIGOROUSLY ? EVERY FOOL KNOWS TALIBBAN HAS LEARNED ISLAM FROM DEBAND WAHHABI AND NOT FROM BARWELI ALA HADRAT CREED AND HENCE ARE NEVER GOING TO BE BLESSED BY ALLAH AND WILL NEVER SUCCEED - INSHALLAH - THE ONLY WAY THEY WILL SUCCEED IS IN BECOMING THE ARMY OF DAJJAL FROM KHURASAAN - AMEEN[/size] [/b] |
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Post by khansahib on Oct 16, 2008 20:43:21 GMT
brother khansahib, you have pasted a lot of information but some of this has got nothing to do with this topic directly tbh. 1) You have no proof, how do you know their bodies smell of musk? have you been to any funerals or done any ghusals on their dead bodies 2) the taliban are still fighting but have been defeated twice, once by the mujahideen forces and secong by the northern alliance, so where do you get this victory from? Brother ,lok at the videos . You can clearly see the person who is buried in the video is smiling while he is Shaheed. People who are burying him speaks of the blood ,touching his blos saying it smells MISK. Look at the second video of Imam Abdul Ghazee, he was also a Taliban ,he is also smiling in death. This should ring a bell with all of you that Talibans of Afghanistan belong to Ahle Sunnah NOT deos/wahabis. If you want many other videos I will locate for you in net and paste them here with Talibans dead SMILING. Brother, when the russians invaded Afghanistan after a week Afghanistan fell into teh hands of russians. They thought that Afghanistan was now theyrs. What they didnt know was that Afghans were regrouping and then they started to kil the russians slowly and it rsulted in the defeat of russia. When Northern Alliance came with the help of USA many years ago they drove just Taliban out . Peole started to think Taliban is finished. But that was the Talibans plan to go to mountains so the people in cities dont get killed by USA ,and regroup. Today British generals, usa all say they can not win this war with Taliban.They are begging Taliban to make "PEACE talks " with them. These are signs of that NATO is loosing in Afghanistan: www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/10/10/gates.taliban/index.htmlwww.afghanistannews.net/story/413460Otherwise NATO wouldnt ask for PEACE TALKS.And Taliban want NO peace talks with kufars. Brotehr Im just shocked at how the muslim Ummah is ignorant of the world sitaution. I gave you all HADITHES after HADITHES showing you were the Army of Imam Mahdi alayhis 'salam will come from . No one can debunk those Hadiths,and yet there is a veil over your eyes. |
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Post by Sister Nomee on Oct 16, 2008 22:36:06 GMT
Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
ASALATU WASALAMU ALAYKA YA RASULLALLAH Salla Allahu ta'ala 'alayhi wa Sallam
I must stress no member or this forum supports any kind of aggression or any act of Terrorism. We are all peace loving citizens as that is what our Beautiful religion Islam teaches us.
Brother Khans sahib I find it offensive that you claim " us " the Muslim Ummah to be ignorant to the world situation, and we are NOT the ones with a veil over our eyes.
This thread has been exhausted and discussed in every possible manner, we are all entitled to our views and opinions and must respect others views too.
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Wa'alaykum 'Assalam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu
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OR FIGHTING FOR ISLAM 
, do you mean that these najdi dogs looking at and spanking the "backside" of stranger women are according to hadith and is not their own invented system. 
, do you mean this 
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