Post by SunniSevens on Sept 8, 2006 13:18:35 GMT
Assalaamu'alaikum
The article herewith has been issued by a Halaal Accreditation organisation in SA. I was hoping that Imaam Saheb would comment on this. I feel that the findings of this article possibly does not consider the differences between Pure/Paak (for adornment) and Halaal/Permitted (for consumption).
It's a very crucial matter since many brothers and sisters could possibly start eating Haraam due to the explanations of this article.
JazaakAllah khair.
------- Article starts here -------
Gelatine is a substance widely used in the food industry and can
also be manufactured using the hides of cattle. The local company
manufacturing gelatine uses this process and is certified as Halaal
by a Cape based Halaal certifying body. The National Independent
Halaal Trust was asked for their view on the subject.
What is Gelatine ?
Gelatine, protein substance obtained by boiling animal bones and
connective tissue containing collagen in water or dilute acid. It is
colourless, transparent, brittle, odourless and tasteless in a
purified form. Gelatine dissolves in hot water and forms a gel or
jelly upon cooling. It is insoluble in organic solvents, such as
ether, chloroform and benzene. When placed in cold water, gelatine
takes up five to ten times its own weight and swells to an elastic,
transparent mass.
Gelatine in its purest form is used as a constituent of foods, being
highly nutritious and easily digested and absorbed. It cannot,
however, completely replace other proteins because it lacks some
essential amino acids. Gelatine is used in making jams and jellies,
ice cream and marshmallows and as a setting for other foods in
aspics. It is employed in photography in the preparation of film,
plates and paper; in bacteriology as a culture medium; and in
medicine as a coating for capsules, pills and some surgical
dressings. It is also used in dyeing and in photomechanical printing
processes.
Glue is an impure form of gelatine. A purified form of gelatine
obtained from the air bladders of certain fishes, including
sturgeon, cod, catfish and carp, is called isinglass.
Halaal Status of Gelatine
Gelatine manufactured from the hide of animals slaughtered by
Muslims would be Halaal. However, it was established that the
company manufacturing gelatine in South Africa used both cattle hide
that was slaughtered by Muslims as well as hides from animals that
was not slaughtered according to Islamic Law. Members of the then
Independent Halaal Trust conducted an inspection at the Leiner
Davies Gelatine Plant in Krugersdorp to establish and investigate
the process of manufacture of gelatine. This inspection was
conducted in 1998.
According to the report drawn up by the Members of the Independent
Halaal Trust established the following :-
Initial Process :
Material used for the process is derived from cattle hide. These are
obtained from various abattoirs and tanneries. This included hides
from animals, which were not slaughtered according to Shar'ee
Regulations (Ghair Mathbooh). This raw material is firstly cut into
smaller sizes and cleansed of all impurities. It is then placed into
huge cement pits containing a mixture of lime and water. This
assists in separating the hair from the hide and impurities are
further removed. This is then further transferred to another pit
containing water, which is aerated with sulphuric acid/alkalai acid.
At this point the hide is transformed into a jelly-like substance.
This process lasts for a period between three to eight weeks.
Further Process :
The jelly-like substance is transferred into the factory area where
it passes through a heating process. This causes the collagen
protein to be further liquified and dissolved as gelatine. Hereafter
a series of filtration and evaporation and a chilling process comes
into effect. The chilling causes the gelatine to be solidified and
thereafter it is crushed into granules.
The dilemma faced by the inspection team was that research was
needed to be done at a molecular level for a proper understanding of
the process of the manufacture and effects of the chemical on the
hides used.
The investigation team then submitted their report to Dr. Mohamed
Loonat who was at that time a Senior Lecturer of Chemistry at the
University of South Africa. Samples of the hide used as well as the
final gelatine product was submitted to him for analysis.
In conclusion he noted that Gelatine is not a true protein but is
derived from collagen: via a process of acid hydrolysis or base
hydrolysis. The Davis gelatine is derived from the base type of
hydrolysis since lime is used in the process. It is also a protein
derived from collagen which comes from hides; but the gelatine has
undergone a hydrolysis which gives completely different properties
and chemistry from the collagen. So this irreversible process has
made the collagen into gelatine. The two different in structure,
molecular weight, gelling properties and solubility. Collagen has
been metamorphosed into gelatine.
Islamic Perspective
The necessary documentation in terms of the report of the inspection
as well as the findings of Dr. Loonat were then submitted to a
number of Ulama around the world and their opinions was studied by
the Ulama Council of the Independent Halaal Trust. It was then found
that because the collagen which makes up the hide had changed in
nature and had become a protein which in fact did not exist in
nature, Gelatine could then be deemed to be Halaal because of this
process and drastic transformation.
Proof of this principle was supplied from the book Raddul Mukhtar :
Chapter of Impurities whose Author is Imam Muhammed Amien who is
better known as Ibn Abideen As-Shami. In his marginal notes he
writes : Even though it was originally a donkey or a pig but due to
undergoing total transformation, is a formal cause for the whole,
and this is the statement of Imam Muhammad and Hulyah has listed in
Zakheera and Muheet, Imam Abu Hanifa with him as well. It is stated
in FATAH that majority of the pious sages have adopted this opinion.
And this has become the generally acceptance authority because
Islamic Law has drawn up the attributes of impurity based on this
reality.
Reality can become negative on the negation of some parts of the
original which is understood from it. Then if there is the case with
partial change then what about the change brought about by total
transformation.
Without a shadow of doubt salt is different from bones and flesh but
when these transform into salt then the injunction regarding it
would be that of salt.
An example of this in Islamic Law is that of sperm which in its
original state is impure. When this became ALAQAH or congealed blood
it will still be impure. But when it changes into lump of flesh it
becomes pure. Likewise a fruit juice is pure but when it ferments to
become alcohol it will be impure. However, when this is turned into
vinegar it once again becomes pure. From there we have ascertained
that a total change of anything changes its attributes, as a result
of which there will be an injunction for the negation of the
attribute, i.e. what was impure in the original state will now be
regarded as pure during it undergoing this change.
A number of theological bodies, both nationally as well as
internationally concur with this view and have also opined the
gelatine to be Halaal.
The article herewith has been issued by a Halaal Accreditation organisation in SA. I was hoping that Imaam Saheb would comment on this. I feel that the findings of this article possibly does not consider the differences between Pure/Paak (for adornment) and Halaal/Permitted (for consumption).
It's a very crucial matter since many brothers and sisters could possibly start eating Haraam due to the explanations of this article.
JazaakAllah khair.
------- Article starts here -------
Gelatine is a substance widely used in the food industry and can
also be manufactured using the hides of cattle. The local company
manufacturing gelatine uses this process and is certified as Halaal
by a Cape based Halaal certifying body. The National Independent
Halaal Trust was asked for their view on the subject.
What is Gelatine ?
Gelatine, protein substance obtained by boiling animal bones and
connective tissue containing collagen in water or dilute acid. It is
colourless, transparent, brittle, odourless and tasteless in a
purified form. Gelatine dissolves in hot water and forms a gel or
jelly upon cooling. It is insoluble in organic solvents, such as
ether, chloroform and benzene. When placed in cold water, gelatine
takes up five to ten times its own weight and swells to an elastic,
transparent mass.
Gelatine in its purest form is used as a constituent of foods, being
highly nutritious and easily digested and absorbed. It cannot,
however, completely replace other proteins because it lacks some
essential amino acids. Gelatine is used in making jams and jellies,
ice cream and marshmallows and as a setting for other foods in
aspics. It is employed in photography in the preparation of film,
plates and paper; in bacteriology as a culture medium; and in
medicine as a coating for capsules, pills and some surgical
dressings. It is also used in dyeing and in photomechanical printing
processes.
Glue is an impure form of gelatine. A purified form of gelatine
obtained from the air bladders of certain fishes, including
sturgeon, cod, catfish and carp, is called isinglass.
Halaal Status of Gelatine
Gelatine manufactured from the hide of animals slaughtered by
Muslims would be Halaal. However, it was established that the
company manufacturing gelatine in South Africa used both cattle hide
that was slaughtered by Muslims as well as hides from animals that
was not slaughtered according to Islamic Law. Members of the then
Independent Halaal Trust conducted an inspection at the Leiner
Davies Gelatine Plant in Krugersdorp to establish and investigate
the process of manufacture of gelatine. This inspection was
conducted in 1998.
According to the report drawn up by the Members of the Independent
Halaal Trust established the following :-
Initial Process :
Material used for the process is derived from cattle hide. These are
obtained from various abattoirs and tanneries. This included hides
from animals, which were not slaughtered according to Shar'ee
Regulations (Ghair Mathbooh). This raw material is firstly cut into
smaller sizes and cleansed of all impurities. It is then placed into
huge cement pits containing a mixture of lime and water. This
assists in separating the hair from the hide and impurities are
further removed. This is then further transferred to another pit
containing water, which is aerated with sulphuric acid/alkalai acid.
At this point the hide is transformed into a jelly-like substance.
This process lasts for a period between three to eight weeks.
Further Process :
The jelly-like substance is transferred into the factory area where
it passes through a heating process. This causes the collagen
protein to be further liquified and dissolved as gelatine. Hereafter
a series of filtration and evaporation and a chilling process comes
into effect. The chilling causes the gelatine to be solidified and
thereafter it is crushed into granules.
The dilemma faced by the inspection team was that research was
needed to be done at a molecular level for a proper understanding of
the process of the manufacture and effects of the chemical on the
hides used.
The investigation team then submitted their report to Dr. Mohamed
Loonat who was at that time a Senior Lecturer of Chemistry at the
University of South Africa. Samples of the hide used as well as the
final gelatine product was submitted to him for analysis.
In conclusion he noted that Gelatine is not a true protein but is
derived from collagen: via a process of acid hydrolysis or base
hydrolysis. The Davis gelatine is derived from the base type of
hydrolysis since lime is used in the process. It is also a protein
derived from collagen which comes from hides; but the gelatine has
undergone a hydrolysis which gives completely different properties
and chemistry from the collagen. So this irreversible process has
made the collagen into gelatine. The two different in structure,
molecular weight, gelling properties and solubility. Collagen has
been metamorphosed into gelatine.
Islamic Perspective
The necessary documentation in terms of the report of the inspection
as well as the findings of Dr. Loonat were then submitted to a
number of Ulama around the world and their opinions was studied by
the Ulama Council of the Independent Halaal Trust. It was then found
that because the collagen which makes up the hide had changed in
nature and had become a protein which in fact did not exist in
nature, Gelatine could then be deemed to be Halaal because of this
process and drastic transformation.
Proof of this principle was supplied from the book Raddul Mukhtar :
Chapter of Impurities whose Author is Imam Muhammed Amien who is
better known as Ibn Abideen As-Shami. In his marginal notes he
writes : Even though it was originally a donkey or a pig but due to
undergoing total transformation, is a formal cause for the whole,
and this is the statement of Imam Muhammad and Hulyah has listed in
Zakheera and Muheet, Imam Abu Hanifa with him as well. It is stated
in FATAH that majority of the pious sages have adopted this opinion.
And this has become the generally acceptance authority because
Islamic Law has drawn up the attributes of impurity based on this
reality.
Reality can become negative on the negation of some parts of the
original which is understood from it. Then if there is the case with
partial change then what about the change brought about by total
transformation.
Without a shadow of doubt salt is different from bones and flesh but
when these transform into salt then the injunction regarding it
would be that of salt.
An example of this in Islamic Law is that of sperm which in its
original state is impure. When this became ALAQAH or congealed blood
it will still be impure. But when it changes into lump of flesh it
becomes pure. Likewise a fruit juice is pure but when it ferments to
become alcohol it will be impure. However, when this is turned into
vinegar it once again becomes pure. From there we have ascertained
that a total change of anything changes its attributes, as a result
of which there will be an injunction for the negation of the
attribute, i.e. what was impure in the original state will now be
regarded as pure during it undergoing this change.
A number of theological bodies, both nationally as well as
internationally concur with this view and have also opined the
gelatine to be Halaal.
