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Post by Ghulam Mustufa on Jul 1, 2004 0:06:39 GMT
This website contains a list of foods that are Halal and gives a lot of useful information in this very important Muslim issue. www.angelfire.com/country/balai/biro/halal.htmIf you know of any other good websites, or have any Halal or Haram concerns post them here.
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Post by Ashrafi on Jul 1, 2004 14:56:12 GMT
I think we still do not have much information on food products from the manufacturer's. Sometimes they'll print on their packaging that its halal and a few months later you might find it is not suitable for vegetarians.
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Post by Walid on Jul 1, 2004 16:41:07 GMT
If you write to a manufacturer asking for ingredeints of a food product you would get a better detailed responce if you told them your diet was a vegeterian than a Moslim Halal diet. Islamofobeia.
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Post by ashrafi on Jul 7, 2004 22:32:31 GMT
food manufacturers will only adjust ingredients to suit popularity and sales,not for any minorities diet requirements.
we are living in a foreign country,and food that says halal or vegetarian isnt necessarily so.
even some muslim retail outlets who dont know if the food is halal i.e confectionery they will happily tell you it is.
my motto is simple ; stick to what and who you know, or dont buy it.
salaam
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Post by safia on Jul 8, 2004 15:56:26 GMT
You have hit the nail right on the head. But, there should also be a law against manufacturers altering their ingredients to suit their profit margins. Don't you think?
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Post by Mohammed Khan on Aug 5, 2004 22:08:40 GMT
Additive and 'E' numbers in food -----------------------------------------
Food additives are added to food to make it safer, keep it longer, stop the growth of bacteria, mould, and stop food going stale. They also aid processing as emulsifiers, raising agents, preservatives and improve food in terms of colour, taste, texture and nutritional value.
Additives increase the variety of food available to consumers keeping prices down, allowing safe delivery of food to urban populated areas and create alternatives to traditional food like meat substitutes for meat, low fat products for butter and yoghurt and sugar free drinks for diabetics.
The use of additives is strictly controlled by law. They may not be used in food unless they are on approved Government supervised list, proving their safe and effective usage. Once approved by the EC it is then given an 'E' number and is constantly monitored by local Government and the EEC.
EEC directives require all food to list ingredients of the various products used because additives being so complicated by way of understanding leave alone pronouncing would have ingredients look like a chemist's dictionary.
The 'E' numbers were introduced to make it easier for EEC countries to come to a uniform system of regulating the additives industry.
We are publishing a list of numbers, some of which are haraam and some of which are doubtful, because of its doubtful nature Muslims have to refrain from them as well.
E120 Cochineal (Carmine of Cochineal Carminicago, C.I.75490, derived from the insect Dactilopius Coccus.
E160 Alfa-Carotene, Beta-Carotene, Gamma-Carotene.
E471 Mono and Di-Glycerides of fatty acids. When Glycerol is used one has to find out the source whether animal or synthetic.
E472 (a-e) Lactic acid esters of mono- and di-glycerides of fatty acids. Prepared from esters of Glycerol.
E473 Sucrose esters of fatty acids prepared from Glycerol and Sucrose.
E474 Sycroglycerides prepared by reaction of Sucrose on natural triglycerides (from palmoil, lard, etc.)
E475 Polyglycerol esters of Fatty acids. Prepared in the laboratory.
476 Polyglycerol esters of polycondensed fatty acids of castor oil (polyglycerol polyricinoleate). Prepared from Castor Oil and Glycerol esters.
E477 Propane-1,2-idol esters of fatty acids (Propylene Glycol esters of Fatty acids). Prepared from Propylene Glycol.
E478 Lactylated fatty acid esters of glycerol and propane-1,2-idol. Prepared from esters of glycerol and Lactic acid.
E631 Insine (Disodium Phospate, Sodium and Inosinate). The Disodium Salt of Inosinate Acid which can be prepared from insect or fish extract.
E635 A mixture of disodium guanylare and disodium inosinate. Same source as 631.
E640/920 L-Cysteine Hydrochloride and L-Cysteine hydrochloride mono hydrate. A naturally occurring amino acid manufactured from animal hair and chicken feathers.
All other 'E' number additives at the time of publication are Halaal, because of the ruling of Tabdeel-e-Mahiyat. Please refer to our article elsewhere in this book on this subject.
Except the following: E473, E474, E475, E476, E477, E478, E631, E635, E640, E920
E904 Shellac. a substance obtained from the resin produced by the Lac insect, mainly found in India. The secretions are bleached and dried before usage on confectionary, chocolate panning, ice creams latter and the shining of fruit, mainly apples. This E number is also under investigation. We have had discussions with one of the companies regarding this E number and whether its secretion fall under the category of being Taahir [pure] or Najas [impure].
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Post by Mohammed Khan on Aug 5, 2004 22:26:25 GMT
A Guide to Halal Food Selection by HALAL FOUNDATION (Islamic Food and Nutrition Council of America. P.O. Box 425, Bedford Park, IL 60499)
Disclaimer : This list was prepared by the organization mentioned above. The MSA is not able nor qualified to make any fatawas on Halal or Haram. Any questions should be addressed to the Halal Foundation or some other qualified individual(s).
"Oh people! Eat of what is on earth, lawful and good" (Quran)
For a product to be Halal(lawful) for Muslim consumption all its ingredients should be Halal. Follow the following list:
Read the ingredients on label carefully. Ingredients are listed according to the amounts present. The first ingredient listed is present in the largest amount. Identify the Halal/Haram/Mushbooh status of each ingredient using this guide.
Search the ingredient name in the list and its status will be next to it. If all ingredients of a product are Halal, the product is fit for Muslim consumption. If any of the ingredient is Haram, the product should not be consumed. If any ingredient falls under Mushbooh category avoid this product, as the Prophet has advised us to avoid doubtful matters. This ingredient could come from a Haram source. To find out the status of this ingredient you should write or call the manufacturer of the product Glossary:
Halal: Halal is a Quranic term which means allowed or lawful. Halal foods and drinks are permitted for consumption by Allah-the Supreme Law Giver. Eating Halal is obligatory on every Muslim.
Haram: Haram is a Quranic term which means prohibited or unlawful. Haram foods and drinks are absolutely prohibited by Allah. Eating Haram is forbidden for every Muslim.
Mushbooh: Mushbooh is an Arabic term which means suspected. If one does not know the Halal or Harm status of a particular food or drink, such a food or drink is doubtful. A practicing Muslims prevents himself from consuming doubtful things.
Prophet Muhammad (salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam) is reported to have said:
"Halal is clear and Haram is clear; in between these two are certain things that are suspected. Many people may not know whether those items are Halal or Haram. Whosoever leaves them, he is innocent towards his religion and his conscience. He is, therefore, safe. Anyone who gets involved in any of these suspected items, he may fall into the unlawful and the prohibited. This case is similar to the one who wished to raise his animals too close to a restricted area, so that the animals may step into that area. Indeed for every landlord there is a restricted area. Indeed the restriction of Allah are the Haram." (Sahih Bukhari & Sahih Muslim)
Ingredient Status Acetic Acid - Halal Alcohol - Haram Ammonium Sulfate- Halal Ammonium Chloride- Halal Animal Fat - Haram Animal Shortening - Haram Ascorbic Acid- Halal Aspartame- Halal Bacon (Pork)- Haram Benzoate/Benzoic Acid- Halal BHA - Halal BHT- Halal Calcium Carbonate - Halal Calcium Sulfate- Halal Carrageenan - Halal Cholesterol - Mushbooh Citric Acid - Halal Cocoa Butter- Halal Collagen (Pork) - Haram Corn Meal / Corn Starch- Halal Corn Syrup - Halal Dextrin / Dextrose - Halal Dicalcium Phosphate- Halal Diglyceride - Mushbooh Diglyceride (plant) - Halal EDTA - Halal Enzyme- Mushbooh Ergocalciferol - Halal Ergosterol - Halal Ethoxylated Mono-/Di Glyceride- Mushbooh Fatty Acid- Mushbooh Ferrous Sulfate- Halal Fructose- Halal Fungal Protease Enzyme - Halal Gelatin / Kosher Gelatin- Haram Glucose- Halal Glyceride- Mushbooh Glycerol / Glycerin- Mushbooh Glycerol Stearate - Mushbooh Glycogen - Mushbooh Gum Acacia- Halal Hormones - Mushbooh Hydrogenated Oil - Halal Hydrolyzed Animal Protein - Mushbooh Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein- Halal Lard- Haram Leavenings- Halal Lecithin (commercial)- Halal Malt - Halal Malto Dextrin- Halal Molases- Halal Monocalcium Phosphate- Halal Mono Saccharides- Halal Monoglycerides- Mushbooh MSG (Monosodium Glutamate)- Halal Nitrates / Nitrites - Halal Nonfat Dry Milk- Halal Oxalic Acid - Halal PABA - Halal Vegetable Oil - Halal Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil- Halal Pectic Materials- Halal Pectin- Halal Pepsin- Mushbooh Phospholipid- Mushbooh Phosphoric Acid- Halal Pork- Haram Potassium Benzoate- Halal Potassium Bromate- Halal Potassium Citrate- Halal Propionate- Halal Propionic Acid - Halal Renin / Rennet - Mushbooh Saccharine- Halal Salt- Halal Shortening- Mushbooh Soy Protein- Halal Soybean Oil- Halal Sucrose- Halal Tapioca - Halal Tricalcium Phosphate- Halal Vinegar - Halal Whey- Mushbooh Yeast - Halal
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Post by smvashrafi on Aug 5, 2004 23:20:10 GMT
Can anyone tell me if Lucozade is Haraam ?
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Post by Ghulam Mustufa on Aug 6, 2004 10:54:11 GMT
Halal Drinks All Normal & Diet - Seven Up, Coca-Cola, Sprite, Lilt, Fanta, Tango, Pepsi Cola; Schweppes, Five Alive, Fruit Burst, Sunny Delight, [glow=red,2,300]Lucozade,[/glow] Ribena www.angelfire.com/country/balai/biro/halal.htm
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Post by MRT on Aug 6, 2004 11:23:13 GMT
Good i am glad someone had pasted about E no's those are the most misleading part about halaal diet.
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Post by sunniboy on Aug 7, 2004 23:54:34 GMT
I am sure someone said it is haraam, unless its a specific type of lucozade ?
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Post by Ghulam Mustufa on Aug 8, 2004 11:29:16 GMT
The very latest on Lucozade - it is upto the indidvidual -----------------------------------------------------------------
Lucozade and Ribena 'fit for Muslims to consume'
Vikram Dodd Monday August 2, 2004 The Guardian
A leading British organisation on Islamic law has issued a fatwa on Lucozade, saying Muslims can drink the soft drink despite it containing alcohol. The religious ruling has been welcomed by the drink's maker, GlaxoSmithKline.
It sought the judgment after being contacted by Muslims concerned at rumours that Lucozade was made with alcohol. Lucozade does have a trace amount which is permitted by food laws, but Muslims feared that consuming it might breach their religion.
Ribena was also given the all-clear. The drink was a potential problem for Muslims because during its production process a filter is used made from gelatin, derived from pigs.
Some Muslims have stopped buying both the drinks.
The company undertook a five-month process to have both drinks declared halal (clean) under Islamic law. The ruling means that Lucozade and Ribena are the first British soft drinks declared fit for Muslims to consume.
Lucozade contains 0.01% of ethyl alcohol to ensure the flavouring permeates the whole drink.
The company approached the UK Muslim Law (Shariah) Council to rule on whether its products were haram (forbidden by Islamic law).
Its chairman, Zaki Badawi, a former adviser on Islam to the Prince of Wales, concluded: "I see no harm in consuming Ribena and Lucozade which contain traces of ethyl alcohol and animal ingredients that do not bear their original qualities and do not change the taste, colour or smell of the product."
Tiny amounts of alcohol occur naturally in many drinks and foods, such as bread.
To reach the ruling the company recreated an incident from the life of the Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w)when he drank liquid produced from soaking raisins in water for several days, called nabith. The scientists found that the mixture would ferment, producing alcohol.
The results of the experiment helped Dr Badawi reach his decision.
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Post by Mohammed Khan on Aug 8, 2004 18:39:10 GMT
Whoaah !! That is a statement and half.
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Post by Qadiri Ashrafi on Aug 8, 2004 23:29:39 GMT
That is the reason why Lucozade was deemed Haraam !
Any amount of 'sharab' in any food/drink should be forbidden for Muslims no matter what any Muslim body says to prove it different.
Using a Hadith to try to prove that the Beloved Prophet s.a.w.would approve is also blasphemous, no matter how you word it.
The biggest problem is the manufacturers who hide/fail to show all of their minor ingredients and chemical process' for fear of business.
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Post by Mohammed Khan on Aug 9, 2004 17:13:19 GMT
The folowing is the weblink for lucozades official website from their makers Glaxosmithklime. Ingredients listed as well; www.lucozade.co.uk/index.asp
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Post by bhatialvi on May 31, 2006 1:42:28 GMT
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Post by simnani on May 31, 2006 1:46:56 GMT
Thanks for the link but Kentucky is haram anyway!
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