the killing of animals

[Jamil]

The beautiful religion of Islam has always viewed animals as a special part of God's creation. The Qur'an al karim, the Hadith, and the history of Islamic civilization offer many examples of kindness, mercy, and compassion for animals.

After reading a post about foxhunters in the ''news'' section, i was contemplating the whole issue of the killing of animals. I know we take for granted the food, the meats that are served upon us almost daily in some cases but what do we really know and care about the rights and wrongs about the precious life of animals. I know we have discussed the welfare of animals in the past, of not harming any of Allah (subhanahu wa Ta'ala's) creatures and preserving life, but do we do enough for the livestock, do they have a right to live as well ?

And before anyone says i must be a vegetarian, im not never have been nor do i know one ? If other people can easily survive on a diet of not eating meat can we over come our nafs and willpower to do the same ?

[Sabs]

Give me a nice mutton biryani anyday and i'll polish it down and yours too if your not too careful.

Seriously though, man has always been a meat eater. The Prophet (peace be upon him) was a happy meat eater so there is defintely no room vegetarianism in my house.

[furqaan]

The killing of livestock if slaughtered in an Islamic way and then eaten I see no problem with.
As for Killing of fox's and any other animal for mans selfish enjoyment is completely out of the question.!

[Musa Kareem]

furqaan said:

The killing of livestock if slaughtered in an Islamic way and then eaten I see no problem with.
As for Killing of fox's and any other animal for mans selfish enjoyment is completely out of the question.!

Provided it is halaal then their really is no problem ...

[Musa Kareem]

And dont forget their is also a hadith that says we are even allowed to eat pork if their is no other food available and ones life is being threatened, so what do you say to that !!

[Akhtar Hussain]

musakarim said:

And dont forget their is also a hadith that says we are even allowed to eat pork if their is no other food available and ones life is being threatened, so what do you say to that !!

Well thats a very extreme measure, i very much doubt would come into effect. Even the poorest Muslims in Asia, Africa havent resorted to that ?

[Abdul Rafiq]

I think the point that Jamil is trying to make is a valid one, not neccessarily against the eating of meat as it's part of our diet and part of our sacrifice for Eid al Adha, ie qurbani etc. But when Allah subhana wa ta'ala created all the plants and animals of this world, and said it was haram to harm even the smallest of living creatures, then why do we sometimes unmercifully glutton ourselves with meats and poultry, with no regard of this sanctity. Especially when their are so many different types of halaal food available to us and that can be cooked and served in so many different ways ?

I still think it would be the ultimate sacrifice to give up eating animals for that reason. One must have reached a special state of taqwa in their lives to consider this position, to put their lives completely towards the ibadat of Allah tala just to preserve the salvation of Allahs creatures. I dont think this is necessarily the same as vegetarianism who have a slightly different outlook towards their diet.

[ahmedabad]

Whilst i agree in principal, its upto the individual to make their mind up. But the majority of mUslims have no guilty concience and nor should they have providing the animal has been slaugtered under the rules of Shariah.

[Anwar K]

ahmedabad said:

Whilst i agree in principal, its upto the individual to make their mind up. But the majority of mUslims have no guilty concience and nor should they have providing the animal has been slaugtered under the rules of Shariah.

you are talking asif its haram to eat meat ?

[Jamil]

anwark said:

ahmedabad said:

Whilst i agree in principal, its upto the individual to make their mind up. But the majority of mUslims have no guilty concience and nor should they have providing the animal has been slaugtered under the rules of Shariah.

you are talking asif its haram to eat meat ?

I dont think anyone is suggesting that, or has suggested that here.

But the majority of mUslims have no guilty concience and nor should they have providing the animal has been slaugtered under the rules of Shariah

I am a meat eater, but only occasional. I am beginning to look at my concience at the killing of innocent animals for our pleasure, when we have so many rich and variety of foods available to us. This is a personal opinion.

[MRT]

jamil said:

anwark said:

you are talking asif its haram to eat meat ?

I dont think anyone is suggesting that, or has suggested that here.

But the majority of mUslims have no guilty concience and nor should they have providing the animal has been slaugtered under the rules of Shariah

I am a meat eater, but only occasional. I am beginning to look at my concience at the killing of innocent animals for our pleasure, when we have so many rich and variety of foods available to us. This is a personal opinion.

now that you have grasped that the killing of animals or should i say livestock is a neccessity and you, yourself eat these animals, will you now tell everyone that your recent thought process is purely human nature and not Islamic !

[Jamil]

mrt said:

jamil said:

I dont think anyone is suggesting that, or has suggested that here.



I am a meat eater, but only occasional. I am beginning to look at my concience at the killing of innocent animals for our pleasure, when we have so many rich and variety of foods available to us. This is a personal opinion.

now that you have grasped that the killing of animals or should i say livestock is a neccessity and you, yourself eat these animals, will you now tell everyone that your recent thought process is purely human nature and not Islamic !

You rely are a clown sometimes Mrt, please re-read my posts.